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I am plenty considerate, I stay the he!! outa their business and they stay outa mine. My pipes are not as loud as the road crew in front of my house with spot lights pointed out at my bed room window when I am trying to sleep because I have to go to work early in the morning. Or those clowns with the thump thump sterios that drown out my TV when they drive by.
Well HELL, Ian! THAT'S probably all happenin' in your neighborhood 'cause your neighborhood is situated right there in IAN'S WORLD!!!!
(...ya know, those road crews AND those morons who crank up their car radios, like their "freedom" TOO!!!!)
Just more Dwight BS, those same things happen all over in every neighborhood but stating that wouldn't serve in Dwights little world.
Ah shucks, Ian! I guess you're not quite as "incisive" as I said you were up there. 
'Cause ya see, you missed the POINT of my "BS" up there.
'CAUSE ya see...SURE all that kinda CRAP happens in "Dwight's little world" TOO!!! OF COURSE it does. And, of course it IRRITATES the HELL outta me TOO!!!
BUT, ya wanna know what that TEACHES ME????
Well, that "teaches me" that...I DON'T WANNA BE LIKE THOSE FRIGGIN' INCONSIDERATE MORONS OUT THERE....that's what.
(...and I'm sure someone somewhere along the line has taught you that "Two wrongs don't make a right", and so for you to use the argument that because others out there are inconsiderate, that that makes it kinda sorta okay for you to do somethin' similar..well..it's an invalid argument)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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You missed my point entirely and I actually strayed from it myself with the whole walking all over you comment. The point was it is a noisy world and it is going to happen. My pipes give me pleasure and the point was my pipes (and any others) are not nearly as loud as many other disturbances in the world yours, mine, or anyone elses. Our bikes are just not that loud no matter what pipes you have. I car went by a few minutes ago that would drown my bike out easily. I also live pretty rurally and there is no one to disturb. I didn't move up to management as fast as I did by not knowing when it is appropriate to be considerate. Wal Mart is very heavy into respect for the individual even if they don't follow it themselves. I don't bother the people around me and they don't bother me, our interaction is always friendly and they sometimes stop over when something mechanical won't work and I am always more than happy to go see if I can fix it for them. I don't interact much with anyone around me as they are not the kind of people I like to hang with. I tend to hang in a rough crowd.(sometimes people get shot)Most of my good friends are either dead, in jail, or gone.
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as of last year, if you lived in North Carolina, and soon to be coming to a state near you, you would be unable to register your bike without a current inspection.
It is currently in the works to do away with inspection all together in PA for all vehicles.
I would not, as they say, hold my breath on that. While PA absolutely has the right to do that, the way I understood the law (and I could be wrong, it has happened) emissions testing is tied to federal highway funds. That's why North Carolina streamlined it. We don't have stickers anymore. It's all online. I doubt they will forfeit the funds but, who knows, Rick Santorum got elected there (Side note. Google 'Santorum' for hilarity). You'll know in a couple years, whichever way it goes.
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Emissions and inspection are 2 different things here. Most places around me have no emissions test including where I live. A very few do. Stickers are readily available if you want one anyway with no testing involved, inspection and emissions for a small fee. I don't do that since I still have my old sticker on my bike that was put on when it was last inspected. It would pass anyway so wouldn't be a huge deal.
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"Shot"!!!  Well, I'd say that THAT'S really inconsiderate of them!   Look, I understand you're more a "rural" sorta guy. That's cool. And what's "cool" about that is that, YES, there's a lot less folks around who you can "irritate" and who'll irritate you. COOL!!! But, here's the thing. The VAST majority of American now live in urban and suburban environments where these little "irritants" abound because they're many many more people around!(hey, that rhymed!) And so, because of these logistics/demographics, by necessity, and in order for more and more people to live together in a SOMEWHAT more mutually livable manner, people EITHER have to self-impose some semblance of, let's say "decorum" in their environment, OR what often happens, measures to "enforce" a modicum degree of "decorum" are pushed down our throats by those "Do-Gooders" that Mac was talkin' about earlier. Now, you may say that "I'll fight for my freedom to keep that from happening!". Okay, fine. BUT, remember what I said about the vast majority of Americans living in those urban/suburban environs? Well, ya see, the reason all those folks livin' there are often seen by the rural citizenry in this country as bein' where most of "those darn ol' Do-gooders live" is because, as I said before, they live in an environment where by necessity...well, I think you get it, right?! And don't forget, with the vast number of those folks livin' there, ALSO comes a vast number of VOTES those folks have that could, and often does, effect everybody in this country. And ALSO don't forget, those are often the very same "vast number of folks" who have never ridden a motorcycle in their sad little lives. And so, often the only thing they "know" about "those motorcycles" is that they're "noisy"(irritatingly so, often) and they're "dangerous. And so...WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PISS THEM OFF??????? They've got the votes to screw with us, ya see! (...and, don't worry...I'm sure you'd be a great guy to work for or with) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Well, I'd say that THAT'S really inconsiderate of them!
Look, I understand you're more a "rural" sorta guy. That's cool. And what's "cool" about that is that, YES, there's a lot less folks around who you can "irritate" and who'll irritate you. COOL!!!
But, here's the thing. The VAST majority of American now live in urban and suburban environments where these little "irritants" abound because they're many many more people around!(hey, that rhymed!)
And so, because of these logistics, by necessity, and in order for more and more people to live together in a SOMEWHAT more mutually livable manner, people EITHER have to self-impose some semblance of, let's say "decorum" in their environment, OR what often happens, measures to "enforce" a modicum degree of "decorum" are pushed down our throats by those "Do-Gooders" that Mac was talkin' about earlier.
Now, you may say that "I'll fight for my freedom to keep that from happening!". Okay, fine. BUT, remember what I said about the vast majority of Americans living in those urban/suburban environs? Well, ya see, the reason all those folks livin' there are often seen by the rural citizenry in this country as bein' where most of "those darn ol' Do-gooders live" is because, as I said before, they live in an environment where by necessity...well, I think you get it, right?!
And don't forget, with the "vast number of those folks livin' there, ALSO comes a vast number of VOTES those folks have that could, and often does, effect everybody in this country.
And ALSO don't forget, those are often the very "vast number of folks" who have never ridden a motorcycle in their sad little lives. And so, often the only thing they "know" about "those motorcycles" is that they're "noisy"(irritatingly so, often) and they're "dangerous.
And so...WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PISS THEM OFF??????? They've got the votes to screw with us, ya see!
(...and, don't worry...I'm sure you'd be a great guy to work for or with)
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As I live in an area that is extremely popular among motorcyclists, therefore excessively loud pipes echoing through the valley tend to find their way into my home, my name will be at the top of the list when they bring the petition around to put a decibel limit on motorcycle (Don't even think about trying to argue acoustics with me as I have taught acoustical science at a university for the past decade). As the saying goes, I've forgotten more than you'll ever know. There's another old saying about the freedom of speech ends at the point where my fist touches your nose. Seriously, if someone were to affect the quality of your life to the extent that obnoxiously loud pipes affect the lives of people who have to experience them, you would not be nearly as sanctimonious about the totally cool awesomeness of your new sheet metal (whose ads guarantee that they will outperform the exhausts designed by a team of highly paid mechanical engineers with decades of motorcycle design experience using state of the art computers). It ain't all about you.
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There's another old saying about the freedom of speech ends at the point where my fist touches your nose.
Are you threatening me with violence?
What it boils down to is I run loud pipes ,you don't like it ,and I could care less.
Ya know I had a whole long response typed up but decided you aren't worth the effort so I'm done now. I won't post to this thread again.
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There's another old saying about the freedom of speech ends at the point where my fist touches your nose.
Are you threatening me with violence?
What it boils down to is I run loud pipes ,you don't like it ,and I could care less.
Ya know I had a whole long response typed up but decided you aren't worth the effort so I'm done now. I won't post to this thread again.
Not my style. I would never threaten. But when somebody does decide to back over your bike (as happened here just the other day) don't be terribly surprised.
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I was always told that jet noise was the sound of freedom. 
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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I was always told that jet noise was the sound of freedom.
Yep, particularly spinning up for a cat shot.
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when somebody does decide to back over your bike (as happened here just the other day) don't be terribly surprised.
I know I said I wasn't posting to this thread again but I have to agree with you there. Self-defense is a good reason.
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Personally speaking it's my inalieanble right to play the bagpipes outsie my neighbours window at 3am if I please. I'm sure he'll understand that any protest is a childish and selfish infringement of my civil liberties.
I'm pretty sure that I also have the right to throw my unwanted fast food wrappers in his mailbox( I'm not 100% certain about that one, but it sounds about right)
Oh and another thing....
Why, Oh Why, Oh Why are we even having to justify being consideate of other folks needs and.......
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Why, Oh Why, Oh Why...( that's as far as I got with that one-but it's coming along nicely dont you think?)
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Personally speaking it's my inalieanble right to play the bagpipes outsie my neighbours window at 3am if I please. I'm sure he'll understand that any protest is a childish and selfish infringement of my civil liberties.
I'm pretty sure that I also have the right to throw my unwanted fast food wrappers in his mailbox( I'm not 100% certain about that one, but it sounds about right)
Oh and another thing....
Why, Oh Why, Oh Why are we even having to justify being consideate of other folks needs and.......
another thing
Why, Oh Why, Oh Why...( that's as far as I got with that one-but it's coming along nicely dont you think?)
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Well Brian, I, too, have 40+ years of riding AND over 5000 emergency calls as a paramedic and, despite the results of your well designed scientific study, Bill is exactly correct.
Ian, as of last year, if you lived in North Carolina, and soon to be coming to a state near you, you would be unable to register your bike without a current inspection. As part of the the 2007 federal budget, future highway funding to the states will be dependent each state adopting the same policy within, as I recall, 5 years (it might be 7). So, unless your state is opting out of future highway funding, you've got another year, maybe two, and afterward you'll also be proudly riding with expired plates. They might make an exception for you if you tell them you don't care.
I live in NJ and I haven't had my bikes inspected since 2003
and now they have deceided to not inspect motorcycles as all. Sort of took all the fun out of ignoring inspections
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Well Brian, I, too, have 40+ years of riding AND over 5000 emergency calls as a paramedic and, despite the results of your well designed scientific study, Bill is exactly correct.
Ian, as of last year, if you lived in North Carolina, and soon to be coming to a state near you, you would be unable to register your bike without a current inspection. As part of the the 2007 federal budget, future highway funding to the states will be dependent each state adopting the same policy within, as I recall, 5 years (it might be 7). So, unless your state is opting out of future highway funding, you've got another year, maybe two, and afterward you'll also be proudly riding with expired plates. They might make an exception for you if you tell them you don't care.
I live in NJ and I haven't had my bikes inspected since 2003
and now they have deceided to not inspect motorcycles as all. Sort of took all the fun out of ignoring inspections
We must have a lot more cops than you guys. I find myself at 'routine' checkpoints a couple time a year. You're welcome to a few of ours.
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I'm sure we have a lot more cops in NJ than you have. They just don't care about petty things like motorcycle
inspections. I have been stopped a few times for unrelated matters but not having a current inspection sticker was never mentioned.
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You're a lucky man. 'Petty' is their middle name down here.
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That reminds me of something I noticed recently. I live just off Hwy 74A, about 4 miles from the Blue Ridge Parkway. There are always State Troopers camped along the route. I just drove about 3000 miles through Canada. I saw more cops patrolling the 4 miles between my cabin and the Parkway than the length of Canada. While it would seem obvious that, without such protection, the roads would be like a scene from Mad Max, strangely enough I also saw far fewer accidents or traffic infractions.
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when they start passing laws to quiet lawnmowers, leafblowers, chainsaws and such, then they can come and talk to me about my motorcycle. untill then i think i will leave all as is!!!!! because as i have said before, it takes me about 1 minute to drive past a line of traffic or get out of my neighborhood or thru another and it takes my neighbor all day to mow/trim his yard, then tommorow the other neighbor will start and then the next day another will start and it never ends. there are condo's across the street that they tend to start on tue and dont seem to finish untill thur trimming trees and blowing leaves and its non stop all day so my little motorcyle is to me the least of the problem. i ENJOY the sound of bikes as they drive by #1 i know he's ENJOYING his time and #2 i know he is doing his part to save fuel and not put much wear on my street like the big noisy trucks going by that represent the county ot the power co. or we seem to always know when a fire truck is in the condo's. so dont talk to me about my pipes they are such a small part of the noises i hear that it makes no sense to me why it is even an issue. 
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Asheville must be important to them eh? That and the Biltmore Estate...
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That reminds me of something I noticed recently. I live just off Hwy 74A, about 4 miles from the Blue Ridge Parkway. There are always State Troopers camped along the route. I just drove about 3000 miles through Canada. I saw more cops patrolling the 4 miles between my cabin and the Parkway than the length of Canada. While it would seem obvious that, without such protection, the roads would be like a scene from Mad Max, strangely enough I also saw far fewer accidents or traffic infractions.
Same in Europe, Chet. Yep, during my 5,000 mile ride throughout that continent with Thanassis a couple of years ago, I think I might've seen less than half a dozen "patrol cars" appearing to search for "wayward" motorists on the streets and high-speed motorways, and maybe a grand total of 1 motorist actually pulled over for some reason.
Yep, and what I REALLY think is ironic about that whole thing is that here in the Good Ol' U.S. of A, a country which supposedly prides itself on the concept of "Freedom", there seems to be 1000% MORE of a police presences on the roads here than over there.
You know, "over there" in Europe where the powers-that-be supposedly tie everyone's hands and take away their "freedoms" at the drop of a hat. Yep, ironic, ain't it?! 
(...but then again, those folks over there actually seem to KNOW HOW TO DRIVE A FRIGGIN' CAR, as compared to the average DOOFUS 'Merican drivin' his fat 'merican ass around over here...and so, my guess is that those Euro-Cops know that and the system over there is set up to give allowances for that fact..well, at least that's MY theory anyway!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Asheville must be important to them eh? That and the Biltmore Estate...
I'm not even in Asheville. I'm in Fairview, an honest to God two stoplight town a few minutes from Asheville.
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Asheville must be important to them eh? That and the Biltmore Estate...
I'm not even in Asheville. I'm in Fairview, an honest to God two stoplight town a few minutes from Asheville.
I was close though! I said Asheville due to Asheville being the, ahem, major city in those parts.
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Well, It all boils down to..."Treat people how you would like to be treated" I don't like to be woken up in the middle of the night from someones' loud exhaust(be it bike or car) or loud music(if that's what you what to call some of what's being played). So at night, I don't twist the throttle so much when I'm out and about, especially in a residential area. When I come home from work, I back my truck up in my driveway, so in the morning when I leave,(One of my neighbors works 2nd shift) my back up alarm will not sound off and wake them. 
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Well, It all boils down to..."Treat people how you would like to be treated" I don't like to be woken up in the middle of the night from someones' loud exhaust(be it bike or car) or loud music(if that's what you what to call some of what's being played). So at night, I don't twist the throttle so much when I'm out and about, especially in a residential area. When I come home from work, I back my truck up in my driveway, so in the morning when I leave,(One of my neighbors works 2nd shift) my back up alarm will not sound off and wake them.
You, my friend, are the exception to the rule and may God bless you for it.
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Asheville must be important to them eh? That and the Biltmore Estate...
I'm not even in Asheville. I'm in Fairview, an honest to God two stoplight town a few minutes from Asheville.
I was close though! I said Asheville due to Asheville being the, ahem, major city in those parts.
I'm about half way in between point 'A' and point 'B' and about a mile north of Hwy 74A. Lovely place. I moved here from Colorado with my lovely wife 26 years ago. The two best choices I ever made.
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when they start passing laws to quiet lawnmowers, leafblowers, chainsaws and such, then they can come and talk to me about my motorcycle. untill then i think i will leave all as is!!!!! because as i have said before, it takes me about 1 minute to drive past a line of traffic or get out of my neighborhood or thru another and it takes my neighbor all day to mow/trim his yard, then tommorow the other neighbor will start and then the next day another will start and it never ends. there are condo's across the street that they tend to start on tue and dont seem to finish untill thur trimming trees and blowing leaves and its non stop all day so my little motorcyle is to me the least of the problem. i ENJOY the sound of bikes as they drive by #1 i know he's ENJOYING his time and #2 i know he is doing his part to save fuel and not put much wear on my street like the big noisy trucks going by that represent the county ot the power co. or we seem to always know when a fire truck is in the condo's. so dont talk to me about my pipes they are such a small part of the noises i hear that it makes no sense to me why it is even an issue.
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I was thinking about the need inspection to register thing and was thinking on the way to work that my Jeep is expired too. The tag on my Jeep expired in April!  No fault of mine but it is expired. When I bought my Jeep I paid the renewal but so far have gotten no paper work back. Thing is it has a sticker on it that expired in April and no one has bothered me about it. Plenty of state cops on my way to work too, passed one this morning on the way to work and I thought sure he would pull me over since he was in the slow lane going my direction, nope, didn't bother me. Thing is, if I was illegal I would probably have been nabbed a while ago.
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I was thinking about the need inspection to register thing and was thinking on the way to work that my Jeep is expired too. The tag on my Jeep expired in April! No fault of mine but it is expired. When I bought my Jeep I paid the renewal but so far have gotten no paper work back. Thing is it has a sticker on it that expired in April and no one has bothered me about it. Plenty of state cops on my way to work too, passed one this morning on the way to work and I thought sure he would pull me over since he was in the slow lane going my direction, nope, didn't bother me. Thing is, if I was illegal I would probably have been nabbed a while ago.
Or, even if you were legal but a couple shades darker. What has brown done for you?
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WOW! What a thing I started. I was just saying how happy I am to be back riding after sitting out vacation time due to bike repair. How about this experiment? Easy to do. Ride your bike behind a friend in their car. Ask them if they can hear you. Worth a shot? One thing I've noticed about sirens, it seems to be hard to tell from which direction they're coming. Maybe the way the sound dopplers up and down. I think alot of cagers hear the sirens, and don't care, just ignore it. Or else think they can stay out of the firetruck/ambulance's way without slowing down. Dwight, my favorite curmudgeon, I'm sure LA has much more traffic than FtL. But that's really not the point, is it? Even on an 8 lane freeway, you're really only dealing with maybe 50,60 other vehicles at a time. The other ones are either too far in front/behind to affect you, or they're on another road all together. Oh, they can cause a traffic jam and inconvenience you, but they won't hit you. If your bikes have been a 5/6 on the sound scale, that's still more than the 2/3 of a stock bike. And I have had plenty of bikes with stock mufflers. Many times, when Joe Cager did something STUPID, I pulled in the clutch and winged the engine instead of hitting the typically anemic stock horn. Anyway, we don't need to take potshots at each other, do we? But a little good natured ribbing is fun. Speed Safe. 
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I live at a "T" intersection and , Brian, you touched on a subject that really makes me angry. I see ambulances and fire trucks all the time sitting on the small back road that dead ends across from my house, lights and siren and cars just keep going like they are not even there. The emergency vehicle has to sit there and wait for the cars to go by. I often would think, I hope that ambulance or fire truck is going to one of those peoples houses that didn't stop and let them out.
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8 pages and no one's mentioned scaring animals from the road? Even just little kids being aware theres a big loud hooligan on the roads? It's all about saftey fellas, truly!
I tell you straight... My loud pipes make me feel like the champion of men. I sometimes go out challenging strangers on the side of the road to feats of strength competitions!
A LITTLE ARM WRESTLIN MATCH AT A RED LIGHT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL ALIVE!
I really just like the sound and character it gives the bike. A little personality that can be controled in the right setting. Even with loud pipes they hum pretty low at lights and on back roads near residents.
I do think its kinda ironic that the people in this thread poking fun at the "ego" involved in loud pipes, are the same guys in this thread laying out all their credentials...."I got 40 years riding experience, 25 years driving ambulances, and a degree in acoustical engineering...I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!"
This whole thread is a PIPE MEASURING CONTEST! haha
Smokey you gotta take your own advice here. Youre complaining about others ruining it for you, but you live in a specific area where its a problem. Theres tons of people that dont have the problem you have so why treat "US" like we're the same people? The issue you have is with the locals in your area with loud pipes, and the folks signing petitions. Not someone in a different state with loud pipes.
The line about the playing cards is great, youve proved yourself to be very mature.
And how come they dont take those useless sirens off the ambulances now-a-days?....I heard they dont do anything?
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Well I can tell you that up here Maine which is vast and ALOT of very rural areas that inspection stickers will be displayed on the plate.To add to it they are in discussions with the Maine congress to make it so inspection station will have to test for certian db levels if your over I think its 98( dont quote me on that #) you will fail your inspection which like i read earlier on this thread will prohibit you from being able to register your ride.So even up here in the middle of no where they are cracking down.
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yeah its just the opposite in NJ, as of this year there are no inspections for MC's and just emmissions for cars.
It's really nothing to worry about though, guys have kept stock pipes in their basements specifically for that 1 day a year when you gotta go to the inspection station. So really whats the point in "cracking down" if youre not gonna follow it through 24/7 with jail term sentencing?
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"...jail term sentencing"?????  Well Tom, I doubt "The Man" will ever start sendin' people to jail for too loud o' pipes! 'Cause in case you haven't heard, all the jail space is presently bein' occupied with all those kinda folks Ian said he hangs around with and who shoot people!!!! (...just kiddin' Ian...sorry, I couldn't resist!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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WOW...... Didn't someone recently post about going to a rally,and being in a loud pipe contest. Every one replied how cool and fun it must have been. Now we have an argument about loud pipes. Is Sybil a member on this forum or what. To boot all this based on a sound bite not reality.
I almost said something about this very thing in the other thread but didn't want to get it started. Besides he had fun and that's all that mattered in that thread.
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I tell you straight... My loud pipes make me feel like the champion of men. I sometimes go out challenging strangers on the side of the road to feats of strength competitions!
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Brian I'd ride with ya anytime you find yourself in Houston. I don't care if you got loud pipes.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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