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ENOUGH!!!!
#407668 10/22/2010 10:16 PM
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ENOUGH ALREADY!!
I want this to end. The troll has had enough time to get his jollies by abusing the kindness and openness of the members of this forum. ENOUGH!!

What's an Internet Troll?
The term derives from "trolling", a style of fishing which involves trailing bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The troll posts a message, often in response to an honest question, that is intended to upset, disrupt or simply insult the group.

Why do Trolls do it?
Most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

For trolls, any response is 'recognition'; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it's a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

How can troll posts be recognised?
- No Imagination
- Repetition of a question or statement. Such as the friggin' wife innuendos repeated here as in 11 times in one day. (easy stat to gather using Search) and his "do you need a tissue?" bs.
- Missing The Point - Trolls rarely answer a direct question.
- Thick or Sad. They rarely make what most people consider, intelligent conversation.

Where are you likely to find trolls?
Wherever they are tolerated - this means forums and networking sites that have loose or easy going moderation.

In little over 24 hours this guy has managed to upset the equilibrium here to the point where there's bickering and senseless infighting. And there is little doubt that this a$$hat is gloating over all of this.

This guy has sent me unsolicited pms, one of which was inflammatory... all were uncalled for. His posts contain absolutely NO social or practical merit and in NO way contriube anything positive.

There... I believe I just said what a whole lot of us want to say. This Troll is UNWANTED and UNWELCOME and I encourage his account be axed, and if that's not possible then for Gawdsake everyone... IGNORE this guy! Stop replying to his posts!!!! It's what TROLLS NEED TO KEEP GOING!!!


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407669 10/22/2010 10:48 PM
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Gotta say I agree with Keith, I've been wondering what's going on here in the past couple days... lots of instigating and douchieness in general from a few on here lately. 5 more days until I go to the Arkansas Rally, great riding with good friends, people I never would have met outside of this forum. I go out of my way to meet up with members here, and call all of them friends. What has been going on here this week is irritating, to say the least.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407670 10/22/2010 11:27 PM
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I agree and I hope I can no longer be a troll....

" This community fosters care and kindness towards one another in a way that exceeds human expectations. This forum, with all the lighthearted interaction between members is a place, a refuge, a calm reflective reprieve from the often cluttered, noisy and harsh world we live in. This is a place where we meet to extend friendly cooperation between one another. This is a place where just about anybody would 'take the shirt of their back' to help a stranger. This is a place where if one member actually ends up meeting another member face to face and in person, it's one of the best things that EVER happened. This place, this forum is THAT cool!!!"

I took your words to heart please foregive ME!

(i admit i am a troll ) And i hope this is the first step to recovery!


Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!! 08 SpeedMASTER, Black and Red!
Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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dave clean out your pm's..

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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407672 10/23/2010 12:43 AM
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Send me a copy of the offensive PM. I'll nuke him tonight.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407673 10/23/2010 1:28 AM
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Thanks Keith and all, appreciate you and other's keeping the community together. Still need to toast all of ya one day...

Steve


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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Thanks Keith and all, appreciate you and other's keeping the community together. Still need to toast all of ya one day...

Steve



Yer welcome Steve... and regarding that toast, just come over to Nelson for 2011. You can toast a bunch of us at the same time!!!


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
rsd #407675 10/23/2010 4:33 AM
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Thanks Keith and all, appreciate you and other's keeping the community together. Still need to toast all of ya one day...

Steve



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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407676 10/23/2010 6:50 AM
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I hope that in no way that i have been a problem to any off you. I know that at least some of this has to do with me,and my post stupid helmet discussions. However I come here because I think my America is the best bike built,and want to network with others with the same interest. I am not much of a computer guy.
So if I have offended any of you for any reason I do sincearly apologize. I had no intentions of starting contention.
I wish I could make it to Arkansas for that rally. Because I would like to meet some of you guys. Yes I go on about Texas, its a habit that seems to be infectuous after you move here these folks are very state proud. Its like a whole other country. I also invite any of you who want to because of an offense to pm me. I will appoligize personally.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407677 10/23/2010 9:45 AM
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Well Said (Cardinal Red) Keith,

I think what's unique about ba.com is that while we initially "meet" via an online virtual world many, if not most of us have also met in person. Numerous rallys have been organized around the world and as a result, hundreds of long lasting friendships made. We tease and prod, but through it all support each other in good times & bad. I recognize up front that following my so-called mishap, I personally benefitted more than I deserve from the good people on this site .

If a part is needed, more times than not, somebody will chime in and simply send it free-to-a-good home

It's far from an old girls/boys club, new faces are always welcome.

I'm still looking for the neer-do-well that duped me into being a moder-tator 6-7 years ago . That, and if I can resolve the ubiquitous "U" canundrum

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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
biker #407678 10/23/2010 10:05 AM
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dave clean out your pm's..

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ok


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407679 10/23/2010 10:18 AM
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I too am sorry . And would like to welcome you down south . Riding weather is great year round! Beer and chicken wings are on me!

The beach is clean too no oil made its way down around me (if you would like to dip your toes in the sand)


Are we there YET? I gotta go pee!! 08 SpeedMASTER, Black and Red!
Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407680 10/23/2010 11:13 AM
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Thanks for saying it, Keith. I agree and I've been feeling a little 'uncomfortable' around some of these posts lately too. The spamming and then these dudes that just show up and start running their mouth...it's upsetting to say the least.
On the bright side, it looks like your post may have made an impact on at least one of these 'dudes' of whom we speak. Only time will tell, right?
Oh and btw...Wednesday Keith, Wednesday. I'm going nuts man. It's like the last mile of a reeeaaallly long trip. I just want to get home now you know what I mean?


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
freedom #407681 10/23/2010 11:29 AM
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Well Said (Cardinal Red) Keith,

I think what's unique about ba.com is that while we initially "meet" via an online virtual world many, if not most of us have also met in person. Numerous rallys have been organized around the world and as a result, hundreds of long lasting friendships made. We tease and prod, but through it all support each other in good times & bad. I recognize up front that following my so-called mishap, I personally benefitted more than I deserve from the good people on this site .

If a part is needed, more times than not, somebody will chime in and simply send it free-to-a-good home

It's far from an old girls/boys club, new faces are always welcome.



Thanks for that John.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
DunnSpeed #407682 10/23/2010 1:21 PM
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Oh and btw...Wednesday Keith, Wednesday. I'm going nuts man. It's like the last mile of a reeeaaallly long trip. I just want to get home now you know what I mean?



You can make it Chris... one day at a time, right? Go talk to Dave if you feel yourself falling apart. I'm sure he'll help you make it home!!


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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I am aware I have been accused of trollery.Whatever really.That being said.I wish it to be cleared that I am not the one who has sent mountainman any PM within the past months,and even back then it was a bike question.

Re: ENOUGH!!!!
smaug #407684 10/23/2010 2:34 PM
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No, I can vouch for your non-PM-sending-to-Keith ways. I saw the PM.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Erwin #407686 10/23/2010 3:56 PM
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I came here for the bikes. I stayed here... well, for the bikes. But it doesn't hurt that most of the people are cool, too.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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Not even worth it Erwin.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
FriarJohn #407688 10/23/2010 4:27 PM
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I came here for the bikes. I stayed here... well, for the bikes. But it doesn't hurt that most of the people are cool, too.



me too!

Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Soren #407689 10/23/2010 4:40 PM
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I came here for the bikes. I stayed here... well, for the bikes. But it doesn't hurt that most of the people are cool, too.



me too!




Yep, me three!

However, do you guys know what would REALLY be "cool"?

I think after the two gentlemen in question here have shown their willingness to exhibit a measure of contrition...well...I think it would REALLY be "cool" if we ALL accepted their offers of friendship....and just move on from here.

(...THAT'S what I think!)


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Soren #407690 10/23/2010 4:50 PM
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I found this site while looking for reviews on the America, and what with so many people raving about the bikes I knew I couldn't go wrong with getting one

I lurked for a bit and eventually joined, but if the recent behaviour had been happening when I was lurking I probably wouldn't have joined

Still, apologies have now been made, and hopefully accepted, so we can all move on


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
brindle #407691 10/23/2010 5:04 PM
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Yep, time to move on.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
FriarJohn #407692 10/23/2010 6:17 PM
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Darn looks like these guys were too late!


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Keith #407693 10/23/2010 6:43 PM
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Not even worth it Erwin.




I know , just a little humor


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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I am a reasonably new guy on this here forum and have felt welcome here since I joined. Not being all that technical I guess I have had to rely on humor to add my part to conversations. With the recent problems I feel that maybe somehow I have been seen as a troll. Really I always thought a troll was a creature that lived under a bridge. I dont think I have upset anyone but maybe I should pull back on my comments a little as I certainly do not want to offend anyone here as you have all been awesome and have helped me emensely in more ways than you know.

I hope I am wrong and no offence was taken. I have never been part of any forum before so I really dont know how to behave. I just like Triumphs. Especially black ones.

Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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I don't post much anymore,
tired of the BS.

Re: ENOUGH!!!!
stevieB #407696 10/23/2010 7:09 PM
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I feel the same way StevieB, I have a sometimes dry humor and forget to put "smilies" and I hope I don't rub somebody the wrong way with it. I'll use CAPS. and !!!!!!!! to get my point across!!


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Two_Wheel_n #407697 10/23/2010 7:17 PM
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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
Two_Wheel_n #407698 10/23/2010 7:32 PM
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Was there a purpose for this post? Does the mod or John not have PM capability?

Or, was this post just made to stir something up?


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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I was just referring to some other posts that where posted and one thing turned to another, which (I Believe) why Keith started this thread! I'm NOT!! trying to stir anything up!! Didn't you see my SMILIE???

EDIT: After stepping back and looking at what I posted (which was the phasing of the moon)I deleted the above post, I was just trying to poke some humor at all of this!! that's all, Honest Indian!!!

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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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No Seven, it is my error. I was referring to the whole thread not your post.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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you!? really? come on.................


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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There... I believe I just said what a whole lot of us want to say. This Troll is UNWANTED and UNWELCOME and I encourage his account be axed, and if that's not possible then for Gawdsake everyone... IGNORE this guy! Stop replying to his posts!!!! It's what TROLLS NEED TO KEEP GOING!!!




....now if I can just block mountainman without him getting mad at me....


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
satxron #407704 10/24/2010 1:59 AM
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Was there a purpose for this post? Does the mod or John not have PM capability?

Or, was this post just made to stir something up?




If anything it was probably meant to try and settle things down. Things were already stirred up.

You gotta realize that this site is *mostly* self-policing. The mods only try and step in when things get really out of hand. I don't like to lock or delete threads. I really don't like banning or deleting people. I'd rather let them take their course and work themselves out. It's all part of the process.


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
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....now if I can just block mountainman without him getting mad at me....



I won't even know!


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Keith #407706 10/24/2010 9:08 AM
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Goodonya Kieth for having the guts to say your piece. This forum has always been a place of support and encouragement where no question is a stupid one and people weren't afraid to ask them in case of ridicule. I too whilst not being on here as much as before due to other priorities have noticed an air of change. Now after this thread it's up to all of us, to make sure no one or even several people spoil it for the rest.

Troll hey? Ya learn something every day.

Btw, I've met so many great people on here because the vast majority are just great to learn from and talk to, and for that reason alone I'm very grateful. staffo


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Re: ENOUGH!!!!
freedom #407707 10/24/2010 11:28 AM
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I'm still looking for the neer-do-well that duped me into being a moder-tator 6-7 years ago . That, and if I can resolve the ubiquitous "U" canundrum

jh



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