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Yeah, the operative words here are "safe and sane"! Which doesn't describe a whole lot of the nut cases in cars(especially pretty young women in new cars ) who are also a "passive" part of this road technique. I did some lane splitting while I was in Cali a couple of years ago, saved a TON of time. But I was scared sheetless the whole time I was doin it!

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When it seems like most cagers can't figure out what the red, yellow and green lights are for, who goes first at a 4-way stop or how to navigate around a round-about... I think you're asking for trouble, safer to play Russian Roulette with 6 rounds in a revolver! People seem to make-up their own traffic laws and rules of the road. You maybe filtering legally but if somebody doesn't think so, you can explain it to them when your lying on the road. It would be better if DOT made a motorcycle only lane!

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Well SURE, you'd feel this way, Steven. And 'cause YOU reside within the Commonwealth of MASSACHUSETTS, dude!!!

AND where I SWEAR while once driving around the streets of Boston in a rental car, I never EVER witnessed such bad freakin' driving performed by others anywhere ELSE in these United States!

(...and so like I said, OF COURSE you'd feel this way about all this!!!)

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To be Frank( who is this guy, Frank?)the only way to make progress round our London Orbital M25 is to ' filter'....
I have been known vto do so with a set of very wide soft luggage and, I am told, acquired several car wing mirrors en route.

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SEE, my fellow Americans?! EVEN this LIMEY here understands AND has the guts to lane-split, ahem, "filter" through deadlocked urban traffic in HIS city, and THEY even drive/ride on the WRONG side of the freakin' road!!!

(...boy oh boy, and here my fellow Americans always talk this whole macho talk all the damn time, and YET when push comes to SHOVE.......!!!!)

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Its only legal in California. In my state they will write a ticket for careless driving or improper lane change. The motor cops will usually leave you alone.

Here is a map for where it is legal/illegal. Lane splitting by state

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Well, if ya wanna get all serious here Ron , the funny thing is that even in California and until recently when they "codified" the proper manner in which to lane-split, it was also a state which, and such as in those yellow colored states in that link of yours, "not mentioned and not specifically prohibited", BUT was always "allowed" by the local LEAs and the CHP IF the observing officer felt the rider was doing it in a safe manner.

And so, IF down there in that Lone Star State you moved to a while back(you Yankee Carpetbagger you LOL) doesn't SPECIFICALLY "prohibit" it in your state's motor vehicle codes, and as that map suggests, then conceivably could someone cited for this "offense" down there fight and win and have this ticket thrown out of court because of that?

'Cause "legally" it sounds as if they COULD.

(...but yeah yeah, I know...those idiots judges EVERYWHERE will always side with the cop and his testimony, huh...and as an ex-Philly cop, YOU know that's true, and especially in cases involving driving citations, huh!)

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Its only legal in California. In my state they will write a ticket for careless driving or improper lane change. The motor cops will usually leave you alone.

Here is a map for where it is legal/illegal. Lane splitting by state

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It's also technically illegal in UK but everyone does it and the police will ignore it do long as you're being sensible.
I once many years ago was knocked off my bike when filtering by a woman in a car who thought that a red light meant she could turn right anyhow.
When it went to court there was no question about my filtering....in the Judges words ' the motorcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him'
Bought my first Harley with the compensation payment

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Cool, "the mororcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him". But then you took your lucky break and bought a Harley?!!

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It's also technically illegal in UK but everyone does it and the police will ignore it do long as you're being sensible.
I once many years ago was knocked off my bike when filtering by a woman in a car who thought that a red light meant she could turn right anyhow.
When it went to court there was no question about my filtering....in the Judges words ' the motorcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him'
Bought my first Harley with the compensation payment

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Cool, "the mororcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him". But then you took your lucky break and bought a Harley?!!

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It's also technically illegal in UK but everyone does it and the police will ignore it do long as you're being sensible.
I once many years ago was knocked off my bike when filtering by a woman in a car who thought that a red light meant she could turn right anyhow.
When it went to court there was no question about my filtering....in the Judges words ' the motorcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him'
Bought my first Harley with the compensation payment

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Cool, "the mororcyclist was there to be seen if you had looked for him". But then you took your lucky break and bought a Harley?!!

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I can only argue in my defence a plea of temporary insanity.

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At least you can be comforted by knowing it is only "temporary". Unlike SOME on here...

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And so, IF down there in that Lone Star State you moved to a while back(you Yankee Carpetbagger you LOL) doesn't SPECIFICALLY "prohibit" it in your state's motor vehicle codes, and as that map suggests, then conceivably could someone cited for this "offense" down there fight and win and have this ticket thrown out of court because of that?

'Cause "legally" it sounds as if they COULD.

(...but yeah yeah, I know...those idiots judges EVERYWHERE will always side with the cop and his testimony, huh...and as an ex-Philly cop, YOU know that's true, and especially in cases involving driving citations, huh!)

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And so, IF down there in that Lone Star State you moved to a while back(you Yankee Carpetbagger you LOL) doesn't SPECIFICALLY "prohibit" it in your state's motor vehicle codes, and as that map suggests, then conceivably could someone cited for this "offense" down there fight and win and have this ticket thrown out of court because of that?

'Cause "legally" it sounds as if they COULD.

(...but yeah yeah, I know...those idiots judges EVERYWHERE will always side with the cop and his testimony, huh...and as an ex-Philly cop, YOU know that's true, and especially in cases involving driving citations, huh!)

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That is the problem with a charge called careless driving. Every state has one called something like that. Meaning driving a vehicle in a careless manner in disregard of traffic or weather conditions. The cop that doesn't like you doing it simply writes the ticket and testifies to the conduct explaining if somebody opened a door or tried to change lanes whatever and you are guilty.

I have split lots on the gridlocked interstate. One time a motor cop was behind me. I pulled into a lane and he drove on by. Its up to the cop. That is kinda scary because it lends itself to inconsistent enforcement. I think it should be codified like California.

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I've just returned from my none too local Triumph shop 50 miles round a gridlocked M25.....filtered most the way.....passed police cars....nobody bothered by me. Many drivers will pull over a bit to give you a bit extra room to filter....but that's England for you.

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I've just returned from my none too local Triumph shop 50 miles round a gridlocked M25.....filtered most the way.....passed police cars....nobody bothered by me. Many drivers will pull over a bit to give you a bit extra room to filter....but that's England for you.

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So, how about another "spirited" little discussion about LANE-SPLITTING again???

And where I feel like bangin' my freakin' head against the wall while attempting to enlighten so many of you around here about the various advantages to such a practice when done in a SAFE and SANE manner?!!!

(...yep, THAT might get the ol' juices flowin' again around this here seemingly on-the-wane website, ALRIGHT!!!)

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We don't lane-split here ... Heaven forbid!

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So, how about another "spirited" little discussion about LANE-SPLITTING again???

And where I feel like bangin' my freakin' head against the wall while attempting to enlighten so many of you around here about the various advantages to such a practice when done in a SAFE and SANE manner?!!!

(...yep, THAT might get the ol' juices flowin' again around this here seemingly on-the-wane website, ALRIGHT!!!)

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We don't lane-split here ... Heaven forbid!

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So, how about another "spirited" little discussion about LANE-SPLITTING again???

And where I feel like bangin' my freakin' head against the wall while attempting to enlighten so many of you around here about the various advantages to such a practice when done in a SAFE and SANE manner?!!!

(...yep, THAT might get the ol' juices flowin' again around this here seemingly on-the-wane website, ALRIGHT!!!)

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We don't lane-split here ... Heaven forbid!

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In UK not filtering would mean we get cold and wet and STILL stuck in traffic.

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So, how about another "spirited" little discussion about LANE-SPLITTING again???

And where I feel like bangin' my freakin' head against the wall while attempting to enlighten so many of you around here about the various advantages to such a practice when done in a SAFE and SANE manner?!!!

(...yep, THAT might get the ol' juices flowin' again around this here seemingly on-the-wane website, ALRIGHT!!!)

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We don't lane-split here ... Heaven forbid!

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In UK not filtering would mean we get cold and wet and STILL stuck in traffic.

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I was kidding Alan ... It is a way of life here.
Also we have millions of 2-wheelers.
Ask Dwight.

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OH yeah! I can certainly vouch for the veracity of Thanassis' comment here, folks!

Yep, not ONLY do those crazy Greek riders "lane-split" and/or "filter" or WHATEVER the hell ya wanna call it, but they'll do it at some REALLY crazy speeds a lot of the time TOO!

(...in fact, sometimes I think some of 'em over there have some sort'a DEATH WISH, if ya ask ME...ESPECIALLY some of those ridin' around on scooters!)