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Been riding my '14 TBA LT through the worst of UK winter......got up yesterday to go with some friends to the London Bike show.......and it died when selecting gear.
Obviously the side stand switch had seized with all that salt we put on the roads here...... but everyone was waiting, engines running, so I took the Switchback....first time I've ridden it since Boxing Day.
Jeez, what a clumsy clunker I now find it after 3000 miles on the TBA.......come April it's going up on E Bay.
Got home and freed the errant switch quickly ...so nice to get back on it again .....
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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As Ian said in another post all this electic/electronic stuff,sensors,safety switches etc.is just more stuff to go wrong.
It's good when you get the problem fixed quickly.
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Yep, was tempted to simply rip the damn switch off altogether....in the words of the late Colin Chapman of Lotus fame
' Add lightness and simplify.'
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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I think if mine ever goes I'll just do away with it.
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"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
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I must admit that after having owned my america for eight years there have been a couple of occasions when I've put the bike in gear only to have the engine cut out,  yep the side stand was still down, it's rare that I do it but I have done it, so I'm kind of glad that little switch was there..
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I think if mine ever goes I'll just do away with it.
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And it did it again this morning.....
It Must Go......er, the switch, that is
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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Have you ditched the switch yet?No problems?
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"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
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I've given it a final warning.....dismantled what I can of it and cleaned and lubed the plunger....so far, so good but next time it does it,i it's history .......
Guess I'm just an old sentimentalist.......
I took the Road Less Travelled.
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It's got WD40 on it...do they do this stuff in USA?
( WD ...' War Dept.'....been around since the D Day landings...messy but usually effective for this sort of thing. I used to simply cover up the brakes each September and spray the whole bike with this awful gunk....rinse it off for March.
I took the Road Less Travelled.
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What is the worst that happens when to loose the switch? You ride off with your kickstand down? It will just fold up on its own. A redundant system.
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W-D seems to "wash" away easy, No-Ox is like a grease, it stays put. 
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What is the worst that happens when to loose the switch? You ride off with your kickstand down? It will just fold up on its own. A redundant system.
Have you ever seen anyone catch the kickstand in a corner? It isn't pretty.
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It's got WD40 on it...do they do this stuff in USA?
( WD ...' War Dept.'....been around since the D Day landings...messy but usually effective for this sort of thing. I used to simply cover up the brakes each September and spray the whole bike with this awful gunk....rinse it off for March.
I've been using WD40 for years and never knew it stood for War Dept.You learn something everyday.
Old sump oil works we; too.I remember my Dad painted used sump oil over my bike when the 1974 Brisbane floods happened in Australia.The bike was rust free at the end of them
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"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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I've never seen it but I've been told by those who have ..... your right Ian .. it aint pretty.
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It's got WD40 on it...do they do this stuff in USA?
( WD ...' War Dept.'....been around since the D Day landings...messy but usually effective for this sort of thing. I used to simply cover up the brakes each September and spray the whole bike with this awful gunk....rinse it off for March.
I've been using WD40 for years and never knew it stood for War Dept.You learn something everyday.
Old sump oil works we; too.I remember my Dad painted used sump oil over my bike when the 1974 Brisbane floods happened in Australia.The bike was rust free at the end of them
Story about WD-40 I heard was: Stood for: Water Displacement 40th formula. 
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It's got WD40 on it...do they do this stuff in USA?
( WD ...' War Dept.'....been around since the D Day landings...messy but usually effective for this sort of thing. I used to simply cover up the brakes each September and spray the whole bike with this awful gunk....rinse it off for March.
I've been using WD40 for years and never knew it stood for War Dept.You learn something everyday.
Old sump oil works we; too.I remember my Dad painted used sump oil over my bike when the 1974 Brisbane floods happened in Australia.The bike was rust free at the end of them
Story about WD-40 I heard was: Stood for: Water Displacement 40th formula.
You are correct. Wd-40 is also more of a cleaner than it is a lubricant. If you're trying to lube that side stand switch you need to use some type of grease as WD-40 will just wear/wash away.
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It's got WD40 on it...do they do this stuff in USA?
( WD ...' War Dept.'....been around since the D Day landings...messy but usually effective for this sort of thing. I used to simply cover up the brakes each September and spray the whole bike with this awful gunk....rinse it off for March.
I've been using WD40 for years and never knew it stood for War Dept.You learn something everyday.
Old sump oil works we; too.I remember my Dad painted used sump oil over my bike when the 1974 Brisbane floods happened in Australia.The bike was rust free at the end of them
Story about WD-40 I heard was: Stood for: Water Displacement 40th formula.
I thought WD-40 was designed to clean the outside of spacecraft or planes.
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Story about WD-40 I heard was: Stood for: Water Displacement 40th formula.
WD-40® literally stands for Water Displacement, 40th formula. That's the name straight out of the lab book used by the chemist who developed the product back in 1953. The chemist, Norm Larsen, was attempting to concoct a formula to prevent corrosion—a task which is done by displacing water. Norm's persistence paid off when he perfected the formula on his 40th try.
https://wd40.com/cool-stuff/history
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WD40 works OK, but do not count on it for something like prepping a gun for storage or any other long term metal protection. Aero Kroil is a better product all around for its ability to creep into tight spaces and loosen up frozen parts, cutting through crud or displacing water, IMHO. Keep in mind that washing all the existing lubricant or grease out of a bearing, chain or moving part and not replacing it, isn't always a good thing.
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Damn....another childhood illusion shattered.
I'd much prefer it stood for ' War Dept.'
I suppose the Easter Bunny is a myth too?
I took the Road Less Travelled.
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I thought you guys went by MOD? Not the War Dept.
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Was Department? That is what a buddy of mine calls his wife. Mine is the Parole Officer 
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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War Dept.....this is usually accompanied by an arrowhead stamp....denotes the era before the Ministry of Defence...ie before the end of the the last world war
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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War Dept.....this is usually accompanied by an arrowhead stamp....denotes the era before the Ministry of Defence...ie before the end of the the last world war
Yep.
They Used D.D. Here Dept.of Defence with the arrow in between the Ds.
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War Dept.....this is usually accompanied by an arrowhead stamp....denotes the era before the Ministry of Defence...ie before the end of the the last world war
Well that kinda explains the stampings on a bunch of Brit Army things, I've collected over the years. RAF tools, assorted pig stickers and such. Almost all of the items I've found are of of excellent quality. Garrington and King Dick tools are my favorites. A lot of people do not know that the Queen has a select endorsement for UK goods and its standards goes way beyond our Good House Keeping Seal of Approval, UL Approved and ISO 9001. So how come there aren't any Modern Triumphs honored as such?
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Yes. Stuff stamped with the WD arrow is good quality....if sometimes inelegant.
The Queens endorsement is known as the Royal Warrant and usually means the product is actually supplied to the monarch.
No doubt should she ride a bike it'd be a Triumph.
Personally though,as one who's family backed the wrong side at Culloden, I consider the correct royal family remains the Stuart's....
But surely I digress?
I took the Road Less Travelled.
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Yes. Stuff stamped with the WD arrow is good quality....if sometimes inelegant.
The Queens endorsement is known as the Royal Warrant and usually means the product is actually supplied to the monarch.
No doubt should she ride a bike it'd be a Triumph.
Personally though,as one who's family backed the wrong side at Culloden, I consider the correct royal family remains the Stuart's....
But surely I digress?
Close, Alan.
To paraphrase those lads from Liverpool at the very end of their Abbey Road album...
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
But she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
But she rode a BSA back in the day
(...and btw...I didn't need a belly full of wine to type this)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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That picture probably dates to Queen 'Lizbeth s tenure in the Home Guard during WW2.
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That picture probably dates to Queen 'Lizbeth s tenure in the Home Guard during WW2.
Yep Ryk, I'm pretty sure it does.
And speaking of the British Home Guard during WWII...
Ever seen the movie The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943) ?
(...I love that movie...TCM shows it every so often)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Yes. Stuff stamped with the WD arrow is good quality....if sometimes inelegant.
The Queens endorsement is known as the Royal Warrant and usually means the product is actually supplied to the monarch.
No doubt should she ride a bike it'd be a Triumph.
Personally though,as one who's family backed the wrong side at Culloden, I consider the correct royal family remains the Stuart's....
But surely I digress?
Also digressing,My bunch[Farquarsons] had 300 men[and boys] in the centre of the front line at Culloden.Cannon fodder as usual.So they would have been smashed in the first minutes.Did you ever read "Culloden" by John Preebles?Or the "Highland clearances" by the same guy?
Those left me with no love of the Stuarts or the "Lairds" of the clans, but then I have no love of the current freeloaders in Buck.House either.
Dinosaur.
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Yes. Stuff stamped with the WD arrow is good quality....if sometimes inelegant.
The Queens endorsement is known as the Royal Warrant and usually means the product is actually supplied to the monarch.
No doubt should she ride a bike it'd be a Triumph.
Personally though,as one who's family backed the wrong side at Culloden, I consider the correct royal family remains the Stuart's....
But surely I digress?
Also digressing,My bunch[Farquarsons] had 300 men[and boys] in the centre of the front line at Culloden.Cannon fodder as usual.So they would have been smashed in the first minutes.Did you ever read "Culloden" by John Preebles?Or the "Highland clearances" by the same guy?
Those left me with no love of the Stuarts or the "Lairds" of the clans, but then I have no love of the current freeloaders in Buck.House either.
To paraphrase Machiavelli.....
" Place not thy trust in Princes..."
( I'd have thought that'd be a great advertising slogan for John West's tinned salmon...but, again, I digress)
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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Every time I see this post I think of this. John, Paul, Gerorge and Ringo
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