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#382086 03/22/2010 3:30 PM
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Just like to point something out to anyone who' like to trim the fat on their electrical system and get rid of some of those wires (tho I'm sure many of you know quite a bit more than I with such things). Yes, the alarm connector is useless if you never intend to hook up an alarm BUT some of the wires are not. For instance, the wire that goes from the small plug on the starter solenoid to the alarm connector HAS TO play a part in the starting system somewhere (in my case I connected it to the starter button) or your motorcycle will not start, leading to a week or so of frustration and probably a call for help to someone you know. Just throwin that out there.

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something out to anyone who' like to trim the fat on their electrical system and get rid of some of those wires.






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Bad idea to go cutting off those connectors unless you really know what you're doing. You leave stray wire ends hanging round just waiting to pick up water and short out, and you remove any possibility of you (or a future owner) changing your mind and installing an alarm, driving lights, charge socket, etc. It's not as if having unused connectors "lets electricity leak out" etc either - there's no harm in leaving them there. If you don't like the look, just tuck them away somewhere they can't be seen.

The reason cutting your alarm connector off stops your bike working is because both the starter motor and ignition circuits go though that connector so the alarm can disable them as part of its security. If you check out the blanking plug that was plugged into the connector it had two wire loops on it to keep these circuits operational. To fix it you need to locate the two pairs of important wires and connect them up - this will be made especially difficult by the fact that ALL the wires on the alarm connector are black. This is to stop thieves doing exactly what you're trying to do.

I -did- cut off my alarm connector, but I'm one of the ones who fall into the "really know what you're doing" category. I removed mine because I was fitting an aftermarket alarm and at the time I had no source for the connectors so I hard wired the alarm in. I've since found a source for the connectors and have both a new plug and socket, but I see no real reason to mess with it while it's working. If the alarm dies I'll put the new socket on so I can fit a standard alarm.

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Sandmann #382089 03/23/2010 7:52 AM
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I would love it if someone who knew this electrical stuff better than me could do an "electrical charging improvements thread for Dummies".

I'll spend some serious "mind time" going through Roadworthy's description which is the best one I've come across so far. Not that I know if I have any real issues but I just have a sneaking suspicion the reason my R/R carked it on me was because of the patheticly small stock wiring and riding in summer outback heat.

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I would love it if someone who knew this electrical stuff better than me could do an "electrical charging improvements thread for Dummies".




It might be easier to reduce your power consumption, instead of trying to improve the charging system. One way to do this is to install a HID kit replacing your filament headlight bulb. This will reduce your power used from 55 watts to 35 watts, while increasing your light output by over 300%. Another thing you can do is replace all the turn signal lights and rear brake lights with LED. For some reason LED's are still very expensive, but they last longer than bulbs, and use a fraction of the power.

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I would love it if someone who knew this electrical stuff better than me could do an "electrical charging improvements thread for Dummies".




It might be easier to reduce your power consumption, instead of trying to improve the charging system. One way to do this is to install a HID kit replacing your filament headlight bulb. This will reduce your power used from 55 watts to 35 watts, while increasing your light output by over 300%. Another thing you can do is replace all the turn signal lights and rear brake lights with LED. For some reason LED's are still very expensive, but they last longer than bulbs, and use a fraction of the power.

Tom




Yeah but a lot of us need all the electrical power we can get. Driving lights, heated clothing, louder horns, running lights, beer coolers. Well, maybe not beer coolers but all the rest (but then again......)!


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tcv #382092 03/24/2010 9:28 AM
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Tom, I've Sort of done everthing you've suggested bar having Led blinkers. Does anyone know of a plug and play replacement for the stock turn signal bulbs, without having to muck around with wiring and wotnot?

For instance I've Just done a direct swap with my tail light with one of those Kissane stop halogen bulbs but it's not an led so I'm not sure of it's pwr consumption factor there.

Brilliant from a safety perspective though and would still just prefer some more power generation happening anyway. I just aren't that good with improvements to the electrics unless it comes as a kit with instructions that is.

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I used superbright LEDs amber 1156-a12 but wasn't to pleased with their brightness, I e-mailed and asked if they have anything brighter and they suggested http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/s...F115x-x3X1W.htm


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tcv #382094 03/24/2010 8:33 PM
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One way to do this is to install a HID kit replacing your filament headlight bulb. This will reduce your power used from 55 watts to 35 watts, while increasing your light output by over 300%. Tom



Tom,

Sorry to highjack the thread but have you tried the HID lights from the link you provided? If so, any problem using the bulbs in the stock headlight bucket? Did you use the 35 or 55 watt model?


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Sorry to highjack the thread but have you tried the HID lights from the link you provided? If so, any problem using the bulbs in the stock headlight bucket? Did you use the 35 or 55 watt model?




I installed a 35 Watt HID KIT from this web site on my 07 Tiger, which made a huge improvement. I haven't installed one on my America, but I believe someone at BA.com has. The HID kits from this web site use the smallest ballasts on the market. So, from the size of the ballast that came with the kit I installed on the Tiger it is possible the HID kit will fit inside the headlight bucket on the America.

The difference between a filament bulb and a HID bulb is like going from night to full daylight.

Tom


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