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Like I said, seems to me... 
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It is the same unit with or without the "T". Could you tell me your sticker info, it'll be something like 1291150 xxx x xxx xx - EVAP, cheers.
1291150 ISS 3 908 MK - EVAP
'06 America, Raask foot controls, the bike use to be Graphite and Silver, now its Red and Black.
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I want points!
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I want a condenser with those points.... 
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I wonder what the time invested would be to get a recall done by Triumph corporate requiring them to fashion a relocation kit similar in scope to that of the rear brake reservoir kit they made up way back when.
Yeah, good luck with that. I can't see Triumph recalling every America and Speedmaster between 2002-2008 for a non safety issue, can you?
lol Was just dreaming out loud is all! 
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My 2006 America is sitting waiting for a Procom CDI because my OEM one crapped out. So in the mean time I'm riding my 1973 Honda CB450 with its points and condenser. The CDI on the Triumph sounds like progress to me, or maybe not?
'06 America, Raask foot controls, the bike use to be Graphite and Silver, now its Red and Black.
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I just got an email from Wesley Zhou at procom. He said the engineers were looking into the info I gave him and he'd get back with me. We'll see. I'll pass it along if and when.... On another note. I don't want to go back to points. Electronic igntion was a great advance, it just needs to be done right...
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Somebody here mentioned always starting on half choke so I tried it and it starts better.. I think, it's been warmer lately so my results may vary if the temps dip again. Still miss my poppity pop on decel.... bummer that.
And I like points and condensers....and kick starters... now thats a motorsickle.
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Installed my new unit on tuesday set it on 4 as per instructions,Not firing,Set it on 8 nothing tried all other settings nothing.Battery fully charged and all connections fine i tried my old unit and bang no probs.Emailed procom eng no reply in 4 days.Reckon ive got a dud unit,Has anybody else had this problem? 
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It was a faulty unit,replacements on its way. Thanks Brent @newbonneville 
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Well , just installed my new Pro Com. The first time I thumbed the starter it barely turned over before firing off. Ran it for a minute and shut it off, then finished putting the seat and some other stuff back on my bike. When I went to start it the second time to take it on a test ride the bike cranked and cranked before it started. Once on the road the bike ran great. Stopped for lunch and when I went to restart again, cranked and cranked. Once it's running it's great but I hope the starting thing gets better. Bike is lightly modified, snorkel removed from the air box, uni filter, debaffled pipes, one size up on the main and pilot jet. Pro Com running stock default map, pointer selector set on 6 where pro Com said it should be. I am not looking to get creative with downloaded maps, I'm not looking for some big perfomance mod. I was happy with the bike the way it was running. I just want it to operate like stock.  The jury is still out
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Did you change the map or are you using the default map?
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I'm just running the stock default map.
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When my OEM unit died I went with a Procom unit because of the cost. It is extremely cold blooded but once warmed up it runs great. As a year round rider I just had to get use to letting the bike warm up a lot longer.
'06 America, Raask foot controls, the bike use to be Graphite and Silver, now its Red and Black.
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Have you tried any other settings Robert?I tried a few and ended up on 6 and it starts and runs better than ever.
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Have you tried any other settings Robert?I tried a few and ended up on 8 and it starts and runs better than ever.
Are you referring to the little selector switch on the CDI itself, or one of downloadable maps?
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On the selector switch on the CDI.And it is 6 I'm on not 8
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It will run in several different positions.. just find the one that works best for you.
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It will run in several different positions.. just find the one that works best for you.
I didn't know that. I thought that it had to be on the right one according to the part number of your original CDI. That is good to know.
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Hi guys, I'm replacing my oem's as a means to hopefully fix this problem I have with my bike cutting out and stopping. I'm also looping the Side stand switch wires thereby disconnecting it. That's for starters but I also want to replace the connections to the regulator rectifer when i can find out which ones are the most appropriate. Anyway, readiing this thread I'm concerned I may be buying more It trouble given all the prob people have had, So Can someone reassure me these will work ok and perhaps let me know what switch on the unit to select for the best performance, Much appreciated for any replies. 
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buy second hand original one
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Okay, here's where I'm at with the Procom. I got an old laptop with Windoze XP and now have it in the garage specifically for tuning my sickle. I took the custom map that Kyle in engineering made for me, and I am currently tweaking it and polishing it up to suit my specific riding style. There is a lot of advance so far, and when I think I have it close I will start tweaking the TPSvsRPM settings. So now, instead of it feeling a little flat until about 5000 rpm, I have it set pretty well except for under 2000. But, it's getting there. I'll keep posting as more info becomes available. I'm getting happier.
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Damn was I lucky! I put mine in, set on 6, and never looked at it again.  I was, and probably still will(someday), gonna try 5, but I keep forgetting it's there. 
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If I didn't ride mine like I'm trying to launch it into space, I'm sure mine would have been fine
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Oh yea, nuff said.
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I just got mine and like others, it takes a little harder to start now (on the built-in map). It seems the unit needs a little more advance at cranking speeds. I'm a little confused about downloading maps to the unit. The manual says to only download to pos 0. I'm running mine on pos 7. Surely I would have to download any map to pos 7 for it to be available? 
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I have Wendys set on position 6 and it seems to start and run just fine.
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I'm a little confused about downloading maps to the unit. The manual says to only download to pos 0.
Slinky, I don't have one but I think it's like a few items I have dealt with. The factory presets are just that. And the user has one custom preset, that is what position 0 is for.
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I just got mine and like others, it takes a little harder to start now (on the built-in map). It seems the unit needs a little more advance at cranking speeds.
I'm a little confused about downloading maps to the unit. The manual says to only download to pos 0. I'm running mine on pos 7. Surely I would have to download any map to pos 7 for it to be available?
The way I understand it is that the number on the dial and the map you run do not do the same thing, you need to set your dial for your original igniter number and then decide which maps works best for your bike from there. Having the dial set to 6 does not mean run number 6 map, for example. Each dial setting has it's own default map, and you can download other maps to get it tuned in more.
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I get that the map number is not connected to the dial position, but if I download a map to pos #0 as per the manual, I don't see how flicking the dial back to #7 will activate the new map.
There is a poster on Trat.net who runs his on #1 position, he had to download the new map to #1 position, as far as I understand it.
I wish the software dealt in absolute values rather than relative values. I emailed Procom to ask if the base line corresponds to Triumph factory settings, and I got a reply to say that it does, but I'm pretty sure the Procom base map I am running is not the same ignition settings as the original Gill igniter.
I will try a couple of the downloaded maps, just don't want to screw things up so I'm trying to get a clear picture of where the dial goes for the download.
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once you set position, it should be done and not moved again, only changing the maps after that
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The instructions said to match the CDI with your CDI number then the various maps are for different riding style and experience levels. Then with a carb bike the tune of the carbs will effect starting and running along with the chosen map.
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once you set position, it should be done and not moved again, only changing the maps after that
Thanks, that is exactly what I was trying to clarify. The instructions are misleading in that respect.
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once you set position, it should be done and not moved again, only changing the maps after that
Thanks, that is exactly what I was trying to clarify. The instructions are misleading in that respect.
I thought that might be the case 
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I think the reason most people are having problems is because their not being realistic about their engines performance state.  Unmodified, or slightly modified should probably try #5 (per Procom), and modified mildly should try #6. I believe most are over rating their performance mod's, and think a higher number will BE a performance gain, which it WILL NOT! Mine has modified intake, exhaust, gearing, and jetting. BUT NO INTERNAL ENGINE MOD'S ! I set mine on #6, and there were NO hard starts, or ANY OTHER ISSUES! It was like the stock units as far as reliability and starting, idling, etc. Just the higher rev. limit setting. IF ANYTHING, I kinda want to back it down to #5 to see what happens, but since it acts so perfectly as is, I never remember to change it, until I'm at this keyboard.  Be REALISTIC about your performance upgrades, and IF you haven't gone inside the motor, try #6. (or 5).
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Just received a Procom in the mail.
I downloaded all the Maps, plugged the unit in to my lap top and viewed them all.
There are two Graphs being used.
One is RPM & Timing,the other is TPS and Timing.
I downloaded Map #5 to the CDI.
Displaying both graphs(in the review mode)
Which graph is the CDI unit going to use?
RPM & Timing? Or TPS & Timing?
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Just received a Procom in the mail.
I downloaded all the Maps, plugged the unit in to my lap top and viewed them all.
There are two Graphs being used.
One is RPM & Timing,the other is TPS and Timing.
I downloaded Map #5 to the CDI.
Displaying both graphs(in the review mode)
Which graph is the CDI unit going to use?
RPM & Timing? Or TPS & Timing?
RPM and TPS
To clarify, if you plan on editing the maps, start with the timing vs rpm first and get it dialed in, then move to the timing vs tps. You can use any of the maps as a start point, I'm using something like the tps line from map 8 slightly tweaked and a custom rpm vs timing graph
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