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#599516 03/07/2020 9:58 PM
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Moderators, if this is in the wrong bit please move

With the UK government planning to introduce E10 as the normal petrol next year I found this link

However, this is the important bit

Triumph
All models, starting from Model Year 1990, are compatible with E10.

No doubt some people on here knew this, but I didn't


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Re: E10 fuel
brindle #599517 03/08/2020 12:55 PM
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Thanks to fact I need my eyes re-testing, I read that as £10 fuel.
I thought ‘yeah, sounds about right !”

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There had been talk of E15 here but I haven't heard anything lately. I don't know how far back the compatibility goes but I run it in everything due to availability of anything else here. I haven't had any issues even in my stuff from the 1950s. It can damage the valves and seats though but I have yet to actually see it.


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Re: E10 fuel
The_Dog33 #599519 03/09/2020 1:03 PM
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They went to the E10 fuel here in the upper midwest at least 5-8 years ago. It is not a good thing. Some places that is all that is available. Sometimes the higher octane is available without ethanol but at a higher price.

Your mileage will be less.

If you have an older bike plan on replacing all of the rubber bits that contact the fuel, they are not compatible with the E10. That would be pretty much all the carburated Triumphs.

It is a better solvent than gas/petrol and depending on the condition of your motor you may thin out the oil.

It actually costs more than the regular fuel because it takes more to cover the same distance.

Higher than E10 is even worse. The E25 is really the ******.


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Re: E10 fuel
mag10 #599520 03/12/2020 9:23 AM
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Always, when local, will use E0. Tuesday March 10 I filled a gallon can at $2.19/gallon. Regular E10 was $2.23/gallon. WTF? Did the math and the price was correct. So I filled up the tundra at the same time. And yes, Wednesday morning the price was at $2.89/gal for E0.

Octane (provided by the ethanol) drops out of any and all ethanol fuel. And draws water also. Our Highlander which doesn't get operated much gets E0 exclusively.

So if you are used to running 89 Octane, and use E10 you should go up to 90 octane. see above. Unless you burn through a tank rapidly...

At the BP station with the price snafu, I told a women who just pulled up to a pump abut the cheaper E0. She had not a clue what I was talking about and didn't seem to care about paying 2.33 for E10 89 vs 2.19 for E0 90 octane.


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The_Dog33 #599521 03/12/2020 10:14 AM
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Quote:

There had been talk of E15 here but I haven't heard anything lately. I don't know how far back the compatibility goes but I run it in everything due to availability of anything else here. I haven't had any issues even in my stuff from the 1950s. It can damage the valves and seats though but I have yet to actually see it.


I ran it for at least 60K between my 57 and 69 Triumph. No problems ever.


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arstaren #599522 03/12/2020 9:05 PM
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Luckily we still get pure petrol here.I wont use E 10 unless there's no other option.A bloke I know ran it in his Kawasaki 800 and it stuffed the engine.I put one tank of it in a 600 honda which ran like crap until the fuel was replaced.Ok these were older bkes but I tried it in my E10 compatible car and got worse mileage and power seemed down.AND it takes power to produce so what's the point? Oh
of course,MONEY!

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Re: E10 fuel
brindle #599523 03/31/2020 2:04 PM
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Older engines may have problems with rubber parts dissolving.
High mileage engines may start using oil because accumulated varnish deposits that are taking up ware may wash away.
All engines will have worse fuel economy because the fuel has less energy per gallon.
Engines with 'closed loop' fuel injection will have even worse economy because any 'oxygenated' fuel will fool the injection system into thinking the mixture is leaner than it really is. This can usually be cured by re-calibration.


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brindle #600013 04/24/2020 10:12 PM
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I don't use it at all. I have never put in my bike in the 18 years I have owned it. Don't use in the boat or mowers. My Ute is straight LPG so it doesn't go there. Actually I don't even know what the current price is.


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