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unless you have all day, a box full of tools, the patience of a lion and a pc for some knowledge...dont even think about changing an alternator,thats right i said an alternator in a kia sedona, should be simple, right?? HA. as some of you know my son is laid up with no income and so has no way to pay for work to be done on anything. now i guess i am the one that had the option of sending it out to have it done but when the mech said 4 to 500 bucks i thought "WHAT"?? NO WAY!!! heck its just an alternator, bring it over. WELL!!!! i have decided that to work on these new cars is something i dont care to do. it reminded me of just why i got out of the working on cars game. its re dick u lus!!!!! i was gonna ride out to the swamp cabbage festival and check out some bikes, some old cars, and eat me some swamp cabbage but nooooooooo!!! all day workin on a stupid car 
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that is why I am reverting back to the older stuff 
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that is why I am reverting back to the older stuff
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Hear what you are saying. Positive that many new models are designed so that it is near impossible for the home mechanic to work on them i.e you have to take it back to the dealer. Special tools to reach into places where the normal mechanics tools do not have a show in reaching are the name of the game and they all seem to do it. Give me a HQ Holden or xy Falcon any day-at least you could get at the engine. 
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I have done one and you are correct. Ford Contour with twin cam v-6 and Chevy Lumina with 3.4 ho motor are equally as horrible. Nobody brings in the ones that are right up top, 2 bolts, 2 wires, 2 beers anymore, they bring in the ones where they have to ask if the alternator's on the inside of the motor; and it may as well be. Most other stuff on that vehicle isn't so bad. There's a lot more stuff on today's vehicles and it's stuffed into a much smaller space. You are a great dad. Anyone can do the easy stuff, so take a bow. 
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Kia Sedona - Changing the alternator
Step 1: Remove air conditioning system, refer to Chapter 8.
Step 2: Remove engine, refer to Chapter 3.
Step 3: Use Kia Tool #KS1467 to remove alternator.
Step 4: Installation is reverse of removal.
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+1. Take it to the authorised shop where they plug it into a computer to tell what's wrong.Then the factory trained mechanic takes the special for that model, factory tool and fixes it.
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Ford Escape alternator is miserable too.
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Huh, my sons and I were just talking about this kind of thing two days ago! When I was young and dirt poor (the 70s and 80s), I always fixed my own cars. Engine swaps, trannys, just about anything. Of course, my old beaters were from the 60s and 70s. My ability to work on my own stuff was one way I could keep my head above water. Now, my middle son is struggling to keep his used cars going, and he is having a hard time of it. Used cars of the 90s and up, what a ******! Especially anything front wheel drive. I feel bad cause I can't help him like I could myself, even with my fairly equipped shop. Heck, I even take my OWN stuff to the shop now, most of the time. Cars just aren't fun anymore. One more reason I have a small fleet of OLD cars to tinker with and enjoy! Bottom line; it's harder to be a poor working stiff these days.
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Thats why I sold this  And brought this out of hibernation. 
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Unfortunately, motorcycles have this problem too. And its
not new. 1993 Yamaha Seca II- replacing the starter clutch.
Ten dollar part. Step I, remove engine. Step II split cases.
Step III remove transmission. Step IV replace starter clutch.
I bought a Kawasaki ZR-7S the next day (the old KZ750 engine).
That will be my last Yamaha. They always seemed to be the
fifth horse in a four horse race.
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I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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So you can work on the older stuff but not the newer stuff. I agree totally. I don't even attempt it.
That older truck came with a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty. That Kia came with a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty.
I think I would rather have the new technology. Even with our bikes. Not too many old Triumphs made it over 20,000 miles without a tear down of some sort. Now 20,000 is just broken in.
My 04 Silverado with the 5.3 is at 165,000. Oil, brakes, and tires is all its had done to it. The older trucks at that many miles were total rattle traps.
How many folks are able to fix their own stuff regardless of age. 1 in 1000 maybe has ever pulled a motor or rebuilt a transmission, old or new. At least the new last longer.
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ENJOY!!!!! NEWT!!!!!
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Guess I'm odd. I'd rather work on new, computer management engines than old carb'd motors. I have an OBDII program on my laptop. If I get a code, I plug it in and the computer tells me what parts need replaced. Once you start working on newer cars, they are all pretty much assembled in a similar way.
Having said that, I've never owned or worked on a minivan (Sedona). I suspect the way those motors are installed, particuarly V6's, that any work could be a royal PITA. I made it through raising two kids without a minivan and now hope to keep that streak alive! Our '96 Impala SS served in the "mom's taxi" role quite well and I wasn't embarrassed to drive it.
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Guess I'm odd. I'd rather work on new, computer management engines than old carb'd motors. I have an OBDII program on my laptop. If I get a code, I plug it in and the computer tells me what parts need replaced. Once you start working on newer cars, they are all pretty much assembled in a similar way.
Having said that, I've never owned or worked on a minivan (Sedona). I suspect the way those motors are installed, particuarly V6's, that any work could be a royal PITA. I made it through raising two kids without a minivan and now hope to keep that streak alive! Our '96 Impala SS served in the "mom's taxi" role quite well and I wasn't embarrassed to drive it.
Agreed, I'm so comfortable with OBD II,EFI,DIS, I barely remember carbs and points and certainly have no desire to go back. I would like the room in an old engine compartment though and those days are gone too.
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Access turbocharger on Ford Diesel pickup: 1: Remove cab. 
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Access turbocharger on Ford Diesel pickup:
1: Remove cab.
Ford has bought back and crushed more 6.0's then all other vehicles combined (although it looks like the windstar is about to pull away from the pack with the frame recall). That's true, removal of cab is routine on those sweet babies. Now where's that Sedona?
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I dont even attempt to do a thing on my 08 F150. Why in the world did someone invent a 2 pc spark plug? Im not looking fwd to see how much the tune up will cost me. It technically has 30,000 miles to go b4 its due (its got around 63 on it now). It is running a bit rough and I have tried the additives and had the fuel injectors cleand.
So Im going to bite the bullet, although I am going to ask for standard spark plugs that do not require a special tool!
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So you can work on the older stuff but not the newer stuff. I agree totally. I don't even attempt it.
How many folks are able to fix their own stuff regardless of age. 1 in 1000 maybe has ever pulled a motor or rebuilt a transmission, old or new. At least the new last longer.
Sure, that's the trade off, the new stuff lasts a lot longer before it needs worked on. But the point is, if you're a poor fella, the old stuff could be worked on. In the 70s, if you bought a wore out old car, cause that's what you could afford, with some sweat and some books, it could be patched together to get you through another year or so. Now, if you buy an old car, in the same "cheap" price range and needing repair, it is incredibally hard, especially without the correct "multi-hundred dollar" systems diognostic checking machine. (yeah, I know, a lot of parts shops can help you with their simpler machines, sometimes.) Summary; older, worn out cars in times past were the cars that kids and poor folk made their own, and they were doable. Nowadays, not so much.
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I miss the days of sitting INSIDE the engine compartment on a fender working on my '77 chevy P/U with tools like a FEELER GAUGE and a TIMING LIGHT and some 3/8 drive stuff . Mmmmm , easy to make 'em lope and purr in those days .
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How many folks are able to fix their own stuff regardless of age. 1 in 1000 maybe has ever pulled a motor or rebuilt a transmission, old or new. At least the new last longer.
Hey, I must be one in 1000! I would never attempt this on say... my diesel VW, I don't even like changing the headlights on that thing. Last week I dropped the VW off to have the oil changed on the same day I pulled the engine out of that truck in my driveway.
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What's cool about Dave, is that even though he's just a whipper snapper, he's one of his generation who appreciates both the new stuff (SOMEONE PLEASE TAKE THAT I PHONE AWAY FROM HIM!) and the old stuff. And, he's not afraid to work on both. Way to go, buddy!
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Thanks Rich! Hey, someone has to keep American history alive!
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I'll stick with what's cheap and easy to work on. I rejetted the carbs on my Speedy- $5 for 2 new mainjets. How much is a Dynojet Power Commander again?  
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Hey, I must be one in 1000! I would never attempt this on say... my diesel VW, I don't even like changing the headlights on that thing. Last week I dropped the VW off to have the oil changed on the same day I pulled the engine out of that truck in my driveway.
The ratio is probably larger than 1 out of 1000. Very few are able to do that. Then again very few have a hoist ,let alone the ability or desire to go after that. Probably a few thousand.
I have noticed that the technology is there with the computers but fewer and fewer repair shops are around. The dealers seem to have cornered the market.
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its funny I was just reading an article in the wall street journal about the "right to repair" bill.
The dude in the article had a broken wiper switch on his saab, a local mechanic replaced it, and the car wouldnt start. Had to be taken to the dealer and have the computer system reinitialized to recognize the wiper switch.
Hate to say it but as the technology progresses so will the abilities of the average joe. Especially with the information found on forums like this. Theres import tuner kids out there fixing crap with their laptops, complaining about how easy it was to fix an 04 honda civic.
The downside to all this is the average 20 year old doesnt want to learn how to fix his car, because his father taught him it was impossible.
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My dad owned a garage in the 40's and was my mechanic/advisor. He worked with me until the mid 70's. Then said; "Son, do what you do best and pay someone else to do what they do best." Terrific advice. Now I pay $21.95 to get my oil changed and a free car wash! I still change my own oil on the bikes though. 
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It all traces back to the '58 Lincoln, the first of the outerspace cars. That's where they keep cramming things under the hood (bonnet) 'till they run outer space.
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The downside to all this is the average 20 year old doesnt want to learn how to fix his car, because his father taught him it was impossible.
Food for thought!
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Son, who is out running errands with his mother texts me, "power door locks don't work". Check the fuse, I replied. They make it home, how, without the power locks is still a mystery. I pop the hood, show them where the fuse box is and how to open it. Fuse worked loose, seat it back in, good to go. So my son learned the first lesson of being stranded is to look for the simple fix first.
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nice truck!!! thats the kind of stuff i dont mind working on, 9/16 5/8 and 1/2 in wrench some duct tape and maybe some bailing twine and we are back on the road 
