Great debate? You flatter us but naw, this is not great debate. Great debates are:

which color is best
which are the best tires for our bikes
AND of course
What is the best oil!!!



Personally, I welcome all comments and if I am wrong, I will be the first to admit it. That's called the mark of a mature man (and I don't mean old! )


"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" - Robert Heinlein