I cant for the life of me EVER see ANYBODY having a problem with the PGR Back Patch...it may soon adorn one of my vests also...but quite frankly I have no patches at all on any of my gear and may never...

I may put the Triumph "wing" patch on my vest but it would be a "kidney" patch not a "back" patch...

At Laconia NH during "Motorcycle Week" there were "patches" every where HAMC, was very well represented...found them to be polite and cordial....still don't think I'ld want to pi$$ a group of them off...for the most part they don't want anymore trouble than you do...and actually the whole "approval" thing is, often (not always), more of a self policing type action then anything else...some yahoo "wantobe" tough guys cause a big scene and got patches on the back...chances are the local PD are going to round up the usuall suspects...and you can bet the local PD is damm sure aware of the HAMC (or any of the other big 3 patch clubs) and their local haunts...but might not be so aware of some of the lessers but you can also bet HAMC knows about all the lessers in their area.

Plus I think you'll find you actually have less issues with the large "Three Patch" clubs then you will with the smaller clubs...the Large clubs really don't have to "prove" anything to anybody, they have enough issues with the other big 3 patch clubs and the "law enforcement types" its the "weekend warrior" type of clubs that I found the most annoying (at bike week) had to prove they were "tough guys" like a little lap dog....all bark, but not much fight...the large 3 patch clubs don't make alot of noise...and you may never see the bite comming. These guys put there pants on just like you and me...BUT they put the MC before EVERYTHING else...Family, Jobs, ECT...and, hey thats there thing so cool for them....

me... nothing comes before my family, period!

Different strokes for different folks, what ever works for you, not how I would do it, but then I'm not you and your not me, I can respect that!

PGR rides; many, many "patches" all riding together as one group with nothing to prove, and united in their mission...NEVER seen an issue...NEVER expect to!


THE VOICE OF REASON per: Stewart AF&AM/Shriner/Scoutmaster 130/45 TBS 2shim SS Uni 18/42