Oh, I'm not beating myself up over it. I just know that guys like Thannasis and Dwight are decent people, and so are the others on the opposite side of this discussion. I honestly don't see what's so enjoyable about all of this, and that's one of the reasons I stay out of these threads. Nobody is going to change their mind or change their vote. So what's the point? To me it's just a a bunch of verbal masturbation. But if y'all are havin' fun, knock yourselves out.
I like this thread because it comes from such a wide cross section of people. The common denominator is that we all like Triumph motorcycles, and even there we have a lot of debate: custom vs. stock, helmet vs none, Speedmaster vs. America, black vs. red, etc. (Up near Winnipeg they put vinegar on their fries, I prefer ketchup, Kerry or not.) I probably lean a little to the left and I really don't see anything wrong with that. I see it as the left brings on the change, which we all need sometimes, and the right tries to preserve the status quo. What I really try to do is take a moderate approach, because I really feel that the middle is where things get done. I really have been trying to listen to the righties arguements but I'm just not getting much. ladisney tried to make some logical points, those points were that the dems should refrain from disrespectful arguments. Does anyone remember Swiftboat? cosmo enumerated some generalizations about Democratic leaders being corrupt lawyers, but for every one of his points I was thinking of a parallel Republican example. Then there are the arguements that are so outrageous that they are just beyond any kind of credibility. Nobody had a valid rebuttal to Cat's article, except to say there were too many points to argue. Doesn't that say something right there? Let's throw out he preposterous entertainers like Micheal Moore and Ann Coulter and get down to business. Bedouin makes the most thoughtful arguments, IMO, and he isn't even from this country! Come on guys, give me something here. I really am listening.
Cody
I was born a long ways from where I was supposed to be. - Bob Dylan
