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Short version: if you are taking blood pressure meds, be sure to drink lots of water.
I finally got the test results from blacking out on the bike. Not a stroke like they first thought. Brain scan says everything is normal; that ruled out a seizure, which is what the neurologist thought it was.
So I ask him what could be the cause. He said my blood pressure meds. Blood pressure dropped too low, bang, out like a light.
He said when you are taking blood pressure meds you need to keep yourself hydrated. When your fluid levels get low it can trigger a dizzy spell or, as in my case, a total blackout. He suggested one of those camelback water packs so you don't have to stop the bike to drink.
Good news is, I can get on with the rebuild and back on two wheels again. Maybe the bike will be ready and the foot swelling gone by the time it cools back down to the low 90's...
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The timing of your post is great. I will remember that, especially today since I'll be riding all day in the 90-100 degree range.
That is great that you will abe to get back on two wheels again soon!
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I'm very happy to hear that Gary.. got to watch that kinda thing when you're on meds. I hope you'll be up and rolling again very soon. 
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Hey Gary, Great to hear you will be back to riding again. The Camelback is a great Idea. I usually carry bottled water in my saddlebags this time of year. I should of remembered the Camelback, I used one all the time with the ArmyNG. Old age is setting in! Hope you get some riding in soon.Anything below 90 in Texas is good riding weather. Steve_Sixmil
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Brain scan says everything is normal;
I don't know if I would go that far. 
Just busting, glad to hear you're up and aboot again. Ride safe.
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Well thats good news Gary. Glad to hear you'll be back on 2 wheels.
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Good to hear from you Gary!! I was JUST thinking about how we checked out your uber-freak at the rally. Glad you are well!
Funny thing about doctors, especially specialists. They have a biased view, and will (unconciously) be looking for things they treat. The neurologist sees the seizure, etc. It can happen with MS as I have found out. An MS specialist will see MS, and someone who specializes in infections will see Limes Desiese first. It's all perspective. Glad it worked out tho!!
They always say, if you wait to drink when you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated.
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I had the same thing happen to me except (thank god) I wasn't on the bike when it happened. When I woke up in the hospital they said it was one of the worst cases of adult dehydration they had ever seen. Took 6 liters of fluid before they would let me leave. Moral of the story... drink lots of fluids in really hot weather (something with electrolytes in it). Dr said regular water was a diuretic, makes it worse (I never knew that...).
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glad you're back with us, Gary.
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Dr said regular water was a diuretic, makes it worse (I never knew that...).
?!?  Are you sure? I heard that if you are drinjking gatorade, you should water it down because your body will use a lot of water while processing all the sugars in it. Either way, stay hydrated!!!
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You want water, but need to add in other drinks, like Gatorade, for the other needed things ( like the electrolites, the salts, the sugars....carbs ) that help your body process the water and all. Coffee, Soda, and tea are diuretics, they will squeeze the water out of you.
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I know I've seen a similar comment here before.  But, Don't be proud of yourself for not having to pee all day long. You know your not getting proper hydration when you drink a gallon of gatorade and 2 gallons of water and never have to pee. I found that (if you are going to be moving and not constant stop and go) a Thermal undershirt sure does help you to keep cool and it keeps the sun off you. Also it helps keep you from just sweating away all that H2O. But you are sure to die if you are in stop and go traffic! It's only good on open road.
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Hhawk is right on. My son has run xcountry for 4+ yrs. and his exellent coach and running mags. say that for "non-extreme" exertion (like m'cyclng), use 1 part sports drink with 10 parts water. Real easy to mix b4 ride either in bottles or camelback. Be carefull.
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Funny, nobody said anything about beer. Truth is, it takes more water to flush the alcohol out of your system than is contained in the bottle, so save the boozing for when you're done for the day and just sitting around.
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Dr said regular water was a diuretic, makes it worse (I never knew that...).
?!? Are you sure? I heard that if you are drinjking gatorade, you should water it down because your body will use a lot of water while processing all the sugars in it. Either way, stay hydrated!!!
Water is good, if you're peeing and sweating, it's a good thing. Drink more water. I'm born and raised, and worked outside and lived my entire life in the desert southwest and know what of I speak. Sports drinks are good and useful in moderate quantities; we used to have "salt tablets" to replace electrolytes before sport drinks were around. But water is good. One caveat: Distilled water is bad. It leaches the electrolytes from your system. If it's hot out, and you're hot but you're not sweating, stop whatever you're doing, get in some shade and drink water 'til you have to pee. Then drink a few more quarts (and some gatorade if you have some) before you resume.
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Hard to believe that anyone actually ever thought the salt tablets were good for you. Mike Shannon was on the air recently and bought up how they used them in the 60s during games and all, and how they know bettter now.
Gatorade, Powerade, and the like are good in moderate amounts, to replace the minerals/electrolytes and all, then stick to mostly water. So, get a small bottle of the sport drink, then a litre of water, then anothe litre of water. The mostly water keeps you hydrated, the other provides balance.
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A word of caution.....
It has been scientifically proven that if we drink 1 litre of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed over one kilogram of Escherichia Coli bacteria found in water, that contains faeces.
In other words, we are consuming one kilogram of s***. However, we do not run that risk when drinking rum, gin, whiskey, beer wine or other liquors because alcohol has to go though a distillation process of boiling, filtering an fermentation.
It is my duty to convey to all of you people who are drinking water, to stop doing so. It has been scientifically proven tha it is unhealthy and bad for you.
Therefore, it is better to drink alcohol and talk s*** than to drink water and be full of it !
seriously, I have had kidney stones twice directly attributed to dehydration. I used to drink very little water and take loads of antacid indigestion remedies that were full of calcium, and paid the price.
A big risk from lack of fluids while riding is cramps. Get that in your hands or legs when riding and the tarmac WILL come up to greet you.
Ride Safe....
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Therefore, it is better to drink alcohol and talk s*** than to drink water and be full of it !
NICE! Off to the Heineken Keg I go. Then to the garage.
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Funny, nobody said anything about beer. Truth is, it takes more water to flush the alcohol out of your system than is contained in the bottle, so save the boozing for when you're done for the day and just sitting around.
That is true of soda as well. Takes more water to process it all than you get from it.
The other thing with alcohol is that it turns off the enzyme or whatever tells your body to STOP releasing water. So your body stops conserving water, not to mention using the water up to process it. So it is double-bad.
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I quit drinking water. I've seen what fish do in it.
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I quit drinking water. I've seen what fish do in it.
Didn't W C Fields have something to say on that subject?
I went for a 3 hour ride the other day in 98 degree heat. When I got back I started drinking water and iced tea and couldn't stop. When I thought about it later I realized the ride was like being in a sauna for 3 hours but having the sweat evaporate before I noticed it. This thread is a great reminder that riding a bike is a lot different than sitting in an air conditioned car. Thanks
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having the sweat evaporate before I noticed it.
THAT is the biggest problem. People don't realize how much water they lose to sweat because the moving air evaporates it too quickly.
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having the sweat evaporate before I noticed it.
THAT is the biggest problem. People don't realize how much water they lose to sweat because the moving air evaporates it too quickly.
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I also am on BP meds, took a foolish trip to North GA mountains on Monday (left at 0600 to avoid 100+ temps), got to Vogel State Park, stayed in water at beach, took long nap in swing under tree (us old people do that), headed back a little too early (5:30 pm), both arms going numb coming down through Dahlonega. First, real "tingly", then weird numb sensation. Got off bike, walked and drank, feeling returned, got home late, and worn out....slipped into 10 hour coma...but had a blast....sux getting old....
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Wet t-shirt + ventilated jacket = personal air conditioner.
The air flowing through the jacket slowly evaporates the water in the t-shirt and cools you off. A microfiber shirt works even better. This is not a substitute for drinking water, but it makes it easier to stay hydrated.
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Wet t-shirt + ventilated jacket = personal air conditioner.
The air flowing through the jacket slowly evaporates the water in the t-shirt and cools you off. A microfiber shirt works even better. This is not a substitute for drinking water, but it makes it easier to stay hydrated.
I totally agree. Problem is, in good on Nueva York, the air MOVING part is not always the case with traffic and all 
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