I don't think any of them work on their bikes like we do. I mentioned "butt dyno" the other day to a few of them after I had put the Freak in, and they looked at me like they'd never heard of it. I think most of them spring for the H-D maintenance program where you pay some outrageous amount for them to change your oil. And I know here in Tucson, with only 1 H-D dealership, they charge over $80/hr for labor. What this town needs is another Harley dealer. I never hear anything good about the one down on Grant, and I know more than one person who've gone to the Phoenix area to buy a new one. Usually at Superstition H-D or Buddy Stubbs.