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LOOK! Human History has PROVED that "TOTAL VICTORY" against a foe who's entrenched within a populous of similar mindset(religion in this case), and NOT one or two NATIONAL interests(sovereign nations) is a fools venture. Our NOW close friends, the BRITISH, learned this leason in America in the late eighteenth century and in India later on among others...see: Guerrilla Warfare.
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Well Dwight thats twisting the facts of history just a bit...revisionist history seems a preamble for liberals. but anyway. Entrenched enemies can be beaten. I do believe it is necessary to utterly destroy them though.
Nazi Germany was a very entrenched society that was highly indoctrinated certainly more so than many of the little puny Islamic wannabe superpowers. The degree to which the philosophy of Adolph and company was passed down even to young children cannot be dismissed.
We beat Germany by utterly and ultimately ruthlessly murdering their soldiers, citizenry, infrastructure, leadership right down to the last nats keister.
Japan/ Need I elaborate on Japan? We killed more Japanese simply fire bombing Tokyo than both little nukes accomplished in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima. We literally razed those cities to the ground.
Now. No one has waged war since then with such intensity.
But it would be a stretch to say that total ruthless warfare would not bring about a clean victory in any of these puny little muslim countries.
It only takes a hard heart to do it. We may be pushed to this point eventually if the policy of appeasement is ever fully adopted.
Just think.....when we had the first problems with the raghead insurgency in Fallujah..... If we had simply given a brief 24 hour notice to the populace to evacuate the city and then simply subjected it to total utter complete modern warfare from the air and from intelligent artillery and armor. Hey... no place left for the Zarqawis to hide. Just reduce the cities they hide in and the infrastructure and then...declare victory. If they hide in a new city you destroy that as well. When they reach there last little enclave .....its all over.
We have so many precedents ..Dresden/Tokyo/Kyoto every other amjor city in Germany and Japan was completely destroyed. Then and only then was the wind so taken from the Nazi and Japanese sails that surrender was given.
So I am not so sure that victory cannot be attained by use of ruthless total warfare short of using nukes.
The Japanese may have been the most fanatical of the axis powers in many ways. The whole Bushido thing coupled with the hero worship thing for the emperor. Even then when all was said and done Hirohito himself realized his people and thier ideology was defeated never to rise again.
It never did. Nor did Germanies. Those wars ended the imperialistic outlook for both countries for as long as any of us will ever know.
So it would be unwise to assume these radical islamic nations could not be defeated. It simply takes enough firepower and the willingness to have a hard heart.