Does any of you who thinks diplomacy is the pure answer realize that Moslems believe it is okay to lie to non believers in order to advance the cause of Islam? To ask for a cease fire is to ask for mercy, and to do that enboldens them and only ignites ( motivates and THAT actually will create more terrorists ) them to fight on. I think Bayern has it horribly wrong when he says WE CREATE MORE TERRORISTS, that is complete BS and the type of thinking that leads to defeatism. If, by protecting ourselves we create more enemies so be it, but we will ( I guarantee ) not create any friends by surrender. As Larry so well informed us, of the dhimmi and how they aim to put us under it, they well look at infidels as less than human. That is why they still engage in the slave trade, and really, pormoted it from the 600s to now ( although, it is not as widespread, it is accepted by them ). Slaves in Africa had a 90 % mortality rate. Why? Males were immediately neutered ( as were some of the Crusaders when caught and not forced to convert or be killed ), and the infection, the long journey through Africa and then Sahara Africa was brutal. Women had careers as concubines when they were enslaved. The worldview we now encounter and oppose hasnt evolved a bit. So, surrender and see how life changes ( but, perhaps it will be your descendents who find out, perhaps the results wont be automatic, but passivism/appeasement will bear horrid fruit ).


Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and will never be.----Thomas Jefferson