I have a friend that's a mechanic in the national guard. been in for 18 years. He has children as well. A while back he was very sure he was safe from any of this war business. He's now in Iraq. I broke my ankle a few years back while riding an atv, well actually I was upside down in a ditch with the atv on top of me when I broke it. While discussing my dilema with the doctors and nurse's I threw out, well I guess you see a lot of folks from atv accidents. Yep we sure do. But we see more broken ankle's from people slipping down steps comming out of their houses. Same results just differnt methods. FJ I guess I dont have an intelligent debate for your question either. I would just say this. What does each of see as quality of life. If we try to live each day trying to be safe to the extent that we give up all that brings us joy, where is the quality of life. I would hate to leave my children fatherless. But if I give up riding who's to say on my next visit to the doctor he may just say. Sorry to have to tell you this but you only got a few weeks to live. How do you get around that one. We are all here just for a moment in time. May as well have a little fun. Besides there's alway's the next life. Hope to see you there.