Hi Gina, it was nice to meet you. I agree about the pipes. I listened to some with the TOR and some of the guys as they went by and I MUCH prefer the drilled out sound. I think the longer pipe gives the deeper tone. I think I will get brave and start to drill. I just will have to pick a weekend my wife is away. If she saw me taking a drill to my new bike...........it would not be pretty.