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Rear Tire Laser Alignment
#65954 05/26/2006 8:08 PM
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Not as tough as I thought it would be.
Using a Sears Craftsman level/laser measuring tool or any laser level.
A small cardboard box.

You need a bike centerline reference.
I used the front wheel, so the front end has to be STRAIGHT!
This was the most time consuming part.

I marked a horizontal line across the box and a vertical centerline. Then made vertical lines 2 inches each way from center (dammit not micro 0.0009 perfect, just make the lines about every 2 inches!).

I put a 2 inch block under the kickstand to get the bike closer to vertical, but straight up is not a requirement. AND HEY, IF YOU DO THIS DON'T DROP THE BIKE!

Straighten the front end:
Measured from the handlebar hex bolts in the grip endcaps to the pax peg mount upper retention bolt. I use these since they are in the same place on both sides of the bike. I don’t know if they are accurately machined to be the same place on both sides, but I used them anyway.
Getting both handlebar ends the same distance took more time than I thought. Not hard, just a little tedious.

Then I used the level to sort of shim up one side of the box with just about anything (I used the laser level pouch) to match the angle the bike was leaning on the kickstand. Doing this is why the bike doesn't have to be exactly vertical.

Once you have the bars set, you can shoot the box from both sides of the FRONT tire, divide the distance, and match up the box centerline with the centerline of the front tire/bike.

So now I had a target in front of the bike and could shoot a relatively straight, measured line.

I just slapped the level on one side of the back tire and shot a line to the box. Noted where along the measured line the shot fell, and then put the level on the other side of the tire and shot that side.

The shots were off less than half inch from each other with the box at 4 feet in front of the bike. Close enough for me. I was surprised it was that close and did not make any adjustments. I suspect that if you do need to adjust the rear axle, it would take a bit to go back and forth to check it with the lazer. Rather than that, I recommend doing this or some other semi-reliable method once to calibrate the swingarm marks and go from there.

This took about three times as long to type as it actually took to check the tire.

The rear axle adjuster marks and swingarm dots are more accurate than I expected. Maybe not perfect, but certainly close enough not to wear things faster than needed.

I went though all this because I’m leaving on a 3500 mile trip next week, the bike has 25k miles on it, and so do the chain and sprockets. They still look good, but I have a new set in the box ready to install, I didn’t want to replace them just for grins. I did want to assure myself the chain is as straight as I can get it in the garage.

The Craftsman Lasertrack I used.
An El-Cheepo (that's a Mexican brand name, El-Cheepo... never mind ) level that I have one of that would probably work better. Any laser with a measured level side will work.

If someone else posted this already, sorry for taking up so much space. The tires are too different in size for me to get the string thing to work.

Re: Rear Tire Laser Alignment
jj_ #65955 05/27/2006 2:23 AM
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Hmmmm....

I loosen the axle, adjust the adjusters til they're at the same spot on the swingarm and retighten the axle.
Then I put the bike on the lift, put my $12 glasses on, and spin the rear wheel while sighting down the chain. Then I say "That looks pretty good..." Then I take the bike off the lift, take it out for a ride, and come back home and say "Yep, that's pretty good..."



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Deon #65956 05/27/2006 3:36 PM
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I just changed tires about 1 month ago and that is what I did seems ok!


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jj_ #65957 05/28/2006 8:31 PM
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On closer inspection, it would seem the chain is not in as good condition as I thought. It will take me the 3500 miles and then chain, sprockets, tires and tubes will all be replaced.

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jj_ #65958 05/28/2006 9:01 PM
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I just changed mine on Friday - chain and sprockets. The front sprocket was starting to look like a saw blade.....


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Deon #65959 05/29/2006 6:06 PM
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grump, how many miles you get out of it?

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Deon #65960 05/29/2006 6:13 PM
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Quote:

Hmmmm....

I loosen the axle, adjust the adjusters til they're at the same spot on the swingarm and retighten the axle.
Then I put the bike on the lift, put my $12 glasses on, and spin the rear wheel while sighting down the chain. Then I say "That looks pretty good..." Then I take the bike off the lift, take it out for a ride, and come back home and say "Yep, that's pretty good..."






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Re: Rear Tire Laser Alignment
Frank #65961 05/29/2006 10:18 PM
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Frank,
I got a little over 15k out of it. I probably could have got more but I had a chrome sprocket, chrome drive hub, chrome chain, and a chrome brake anchor waiting to be installed. I pulled the front cover to clean the gunk around the front sprocket and found the wear was evident. That was enough to entice me to put the chrome stuff on. I put a new 18t front sprocket on too. It's not chrome, but I have to draw the line somewhere.....


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Deon #65962 05/29/2006 10:58 PM
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lol goodluck keeping all of that clean. i was just wondering because my 05 already has almost 12,000 and i want at least 20 because then i will have the money to decide on belt or chain

Frank


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Deon #65963 05/30/2006 3:05 PM
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I wanna see a picture of that...


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bennybmn #65964 06/01/2006 12:36 PM
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Picture of what? which? who?

The worn sprocket??


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Deon #65965 06/01/2006 5:35 PM
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All the chrome you're putting on there.


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jj_ #65966 06/02/2006 1:04 AM
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The adjustment marks on my bike are not very accurate. I've used the string method and had good results. I guess what I should do is get a very accurate alignment then etch a new index mark on the frame.


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