Stone...you are beating a dead horse here. I tend to agree with you that HD riders are no different off their bikes than anybody else. Every motorcycle owner loves their ride. I do, you do, we all do. I ride to cruise nights on occasion and I have never had my ride put down by a HD rider. In fact they ask questions about my ride out of respect and interest. On the road, however, I have been snubbed by HD riders,Far East bike riders, and yes, Triumph sport bike riders. Don't care. I was taught to be nice to everybody regardless what I get in return. I try to compliment everyones bike and show interest. Even if I'm not interested. You make more friends that way. I say let people wear what they want to wear and ride what they want to ride. For every person who doesn't acknowledge or validate our Triumphs(like we need that?) there are 10 folks who do. The sun has just come out...time to ride.