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I have noticed that most of the people that ride Triumphs are also Mopar people. And I can't help but wonder why that is. It isn't just a lot of us around here either. There are a lot of people on our local RAT pack that drive (when they have to drive) Dodges, Plymouths and Chryslers. I always have been a Mopar guy. Unfortunately, I have not been able to own some the all time great Plymouths or Dodges, but almost all the cars I have owned have been Plymouths.
So, here is what I am thinkng. I have no idea if my theory has any validity to it or not. Most of us are underdog people. People that prefer the best, even though it is not the most popular. We are ones that stick to what we belive in. We are people that hardly waver in our loyalties (includeing our sports teams)
These are just some thoughts. Like I said I have no idea how valid they are.
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Mopars suck, almost as much as Ford (Found On Road Dead) and Chevy. Toyotas rule! 
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I think it's more that lots of bike guys are also gar guys or truck guys. I'm more of a VW/ Euro car nut than anything.
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i am not a mopar guy, never really cared for dodges, i am more of a ford guy even tho there currently sucking. cant go wrong with any older muscle cars though
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I'll go ahead and join in. I am a big MOPAR guy. I have always contributed it to appreciating something different or out of the ordinary. I suppose the same could be said about riding a Victory.
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Yes, I am a Mopar and Triumph owner. Some reasons are the "different is good" idea. I also have a much easier time working on Mopars, and have heard people say that they design(ed) the Chryslers to be easier for the home mechanic. Not so, for some other brands.
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My family always bought GM. My parents had Oldsmobiles, chevys and cadilacs. Now, I wouldn't touch a GM car. All junk and unsafe at that. Subaru's for me. I'm on my second one. I also have a Ford van for work, which suprisingly is defect free so far.
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Never been too fond of Mopar (or chrysler/plymouth/dodge in general).. they should be out of business now if it were not for the US government stepping in and messing with our economic system and it's forces. But I do respect some of their acheivements. I'll admit however, I'm a GM fan.. in particular, a big fan of the most popular engine in history, the small block V-8 introduced in the 50's and virtually unchanged since then. From my experience, it's one of the easiest to work on and most reliable power plants out there unless you consider some of the yesteryear I-6's and I-4's that have long since disappeared.
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You tellum Dink!!!! VW's are kinda cool too & I have both.
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I own a Toyota Tundra and my new vehicle will be an Avolon/Lexus, but when it comes to muscle cars there's nothing like a '69/'70 RoadRunner...Beep...Beep ......Angelis
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I used to be a Dodge/Chrysler guy, but I bought a Saturn last year...it's a good car...I sold my Power Ram a few years ago when the mileage got too high...I've kept my old LeBaron, though...still going strong even after 270K km...it's been a great car!
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Soren,
Being here in Wichita we see all the new Big Dog stuff adverts etc. and looks like not only do Trumps and Mopar
Big Dog has put together a promotion with Dodge selling like painted bikes. I think you get a discount on both if you buy them together.
As to the dodge/ford/chevy debate I have only owned dodge pickups because my brother works for the US fish and widlife service and they buy from all 3 manufactures and the dodges are the ones that have the least problems.
Having said that I believe cars/trucks are so much better than they used to be that you couldn't live on the difference between them. The only reason to choose one over the other is personal preference.
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Ok MOPAR people, I have ask this question of several Mopar owners and most of them just look crosseyed and say I'm not sure. What does name MOPAR stand for. And don't go and Google the answer Mikemm03
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoparQuote:
Mopar (short for [MO]tor [PAR]ts) is the automobile parts and service arm of all the DaimlerChrysler American brands that were formerly owned by the Chrysler Corporation. The term was first used by Chrysler in the 1920s and has been in continuous use ever since.
The term has, however, passed into a broader usage among car enthusiasts as an inclusive word for any of Chrysler's brands, but generally any Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, or Plymouth car and truck. This is because the Chrysler name is confusingly applied both to the parent company and to one of its brands, so if one wanted to refer unambiguously to the parent company, another word was needed. Thus, for example, a car club for owners of any Chrysler Corporation vehicle might describe itself as a club for "Mopar enthusiasts."
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At the dawning of the automobile age, there were an incredible number of companies manufacturing automobiles of all types. The internal combustion engine, which was in competition with itself over competing fuel systems, was competing with the steam engine and various other configurations. As time went on, though, consolidation took hold.
The number of major, global, modern-day, car manufacturers can now be counted on your hands. The rampant consolidation From the Great Depression through the latter part of the 20th century led to some confusion over which company owned which manufacturers (even crossing international boundaries). Chrysler solved this problem for themselves with Mopar.
The name, Mopar, derived from shorthand for "motor parts." It has been the parts and service division for all of Chrysler's domestic brands since the 1930s. After Chrysler merged with Daimler-Benz in the late 1990s, the resulting company--Daimler-Chrysler--kept the Mopar name for all of Chrysler's domestic lines. This sort of parts branding is relatively common in today's market because of the sheer number of brands under single corporate umbrellas.
Mopar Means American Parts
The Chrysler Group is the division of Daimler-Chrysler that oversees the current brands of Dodge, Chrysler, and Jeep. In the past, Chrysler also offered the Plymouth brand, the DeSoto brand, and the Imperial brand. Chrysler was, and is more so now, an international car company, but only their American products were given the Mopar name.
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Ok MOPAR people, I have ask this question of several Mopar owners and most of them just look crosseyed and say I'm not sure.
What does name MOPAR stand for. And don't go and Google the answer
Mikemm03
MoPar was the shortened name given to the Motor Parts Division, The group that distributed repar/service items.
Been like that since the early or mid 30's.
Now, as for MoPars and Triumphs, if you dig deeper yet you will probably find that many who are fans of both breeds are also engineers or other tech types who are more likely to recognise real quality and performance. As for the lesser brands, I like toyotas and other far east cars, buy them 6 at a time. Then I toss them after I drink the beer out of them.
Ford has had cooling problems since they stopped buying Dodge built engines in 1914, and they still don't seem to have sorted that out. I was not impressed that they first made provision for adding an optional oil filter to their V8 some 35 years after Plymouth had them as an option on the base models and standard on the higher lines. The first Plymouth had hydraulic brakes, Ford finally got them some 9 or 10 years later.
Plymouth had a full pressure oil system when they went into production in 1928. Chevy finally gave up on their spit/miss splash system in 1954.
The NHRA requires scatter shields on GM transmissions in cars that are 2 seconds slower than they are required on MoPars.
Chrysler started making the 426 in '63. 43 years later, it is still the standard engine used in top fuel dragsters. There is no point in even trying to run anything else.
Oh yeah, recent MoPars: '96 D1500 360 V8, '71 Jensen Interceptor (Factory standard engine was a Dodge 383HP), 91 Jeep, '92 D2500 Cummins 360.
Current ones, '51 Plymouth Cambridge, '69 D100, '06 Charger R/T.
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I had a few, loved the slant six, owned a couple of 318's, but I got sick of putting starters on them, the two I owned both ate starters bad.
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Wait untill you get a smallblock chevy that ruins starters in a couple of weeks if they aren't shimmed right.
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That slant six was an absolute bulletproof motor. I had two Plymouth Valiants with them. I did throw a rod in one of them. After 20,000 miles, I decided to finally change the oil. Threw a rod an hour later. Quite funny looking back at it now.
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A Studebaker man, myself......
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Heh Heh! I'm with you on that, Greybeard. That was the bad old days.
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I'll third it that Mopars suck although I wouldn't mind having a couple 1970 hemi cuda's around they are bringing a pretty good chunk of change these days. Boy if we only knew! I was always a Pontiac man until they started dumping Oldsmobile and Chevy engines in them. I liked the Pontic engines and could really make them run. These days (since about 1985) I am a tried and true TOYOTA fan. You take care of them and they will last 4ever. I had a 1990 4Runner with 228,000 miles on here and it ran like a top until some old fart fell asleep at the wheel and smashed into it (totaled)  I never drove a Mopar that handled for sh#*, the steering just felt terrible to me while my Pontiacs and most GM's handled pretty well. I like the windy roads, anyone one or any car can go straight down the road, I think thats about all the Mopars were good for.
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I never drove a Mopar that handled for sh#*, the steering just felt terrible to me while my Pontiacs and most GM's handled pretty well. I like the windy roads, anyone one or any car can go straight down the road, I think thats about all the Mopars were good for.
Go for a test drive in the Challenger R/T. Makes everything else from GM feel like a '50 Buick Special.
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Oh so they finally got it right!   it's about time
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I've always been a GM guy, Chevys and Buicks, I was even
sent to Tarrytown for courses from auto shop. But, I do have
respect for some of the MOPAR products: the 225 slant 6,
the MAX Wedge, and of course the HEMI, not to mention the
318's, and 340's. Good, powerfull, reliable motors.
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PS, my dad fought the Japs in WW2. I won't buy their products.
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Even my Charger SE handles pretty well, altho a bug loafy sometimes...
My mom had a '91 Chevy LUMINA freakin dust-buster minivan that went to 275k when she finally got rid of it LAST YEAR. We got that thing when I was in 8th grade!!
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I'll third it that Mopars suck although I wouldn't mind having a couple 1970 hemi cuda's around they are bringing a pretty good chunk of change these days. (since about 1985) I am a tried and true TOYOTA fan. You take care of them and they will last 4ever. I had a 1990 4Runner with 228,000 miles on here and it ran like a top until some old fart fell asleep at the wheel and smashed into it (totaled)
I never drove a Mopar that handled for sh#*, the steering just felt terrible to me while my Pontiacs and most GM's handled pretty well. I like the windy roads, anyone one or any car can go straight down the road, I think thats about all the Mopars were good for.
Old Mopars had the torsion bar front suspensions which were far above and beyond the old GM shimmed coil springed front suspensions. They not only handled better but stopped better. Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Toyota? We are talking about muscle cars. Not 110hp horsepower ecoboxes. Geez...BTW..My 1997 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4 360CI has 250K miles on it...and still tows a 5th wheel. Can your Toyota do that?
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I have noticed that most of the people that ride Triumphs are also Mopar people.
Generalize much? Where are your statistics? Show your work.
I'm a VW guy but I'm learning quickly to become a (classic) Mustang guy. Someday I might get back to being a 914 guy.
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I have noticed that most of the people that ride Triumphs are also Mopar people.
I would hope that most (Triumph owners) are much smarter than that  .
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I was a die hard Ford fan for a long time.. When I built my mustang drag car to the point of not being able to drive it to the track no more I tried to tow it to TX with my f-150 well It did fine but truck was not happy with the 38 ft enclosed trailer.. So I got a F350 with the power stroke engine,, had it 2 months and traded it for a 3500 dodge with the cummings and a 6 speed tranny.. Drove the snot out of it then sold the car truck and trailer all as a pacakge deal once I made my mind up to give up racing..Then I drove a neon ( stop laughing) for a year ( ok it was free now stop it) till it caught on fire in the parking lot of work.. Got me a Dakota 4 door truck with the 4.7 v-8 in it.. I love the truck, lots of power, just the 15 mpg kills me..
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Soren, I'm also a Mopar man. They (or Triumphs) are not necessarily the best, just have the most bang for the least $$$. I'm more of a tightwad than a fan of any brand. IMHO, all manufacturers cut every corner possible to make their product marketable and profitable at the consumers expense. Often, I look at products that are not popular to the high roller masses to find good bargins. Mopars and Triumphs both offer good bang/buck ratios for me.
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Oh so they finally got it right! it's about time
Yup, they handle as much better than other new cars as the early torsion bar MoPars did back in the 50's.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Well....All I know is that my Pop's '69 Chrysler Newport(green with black vinyl roof, and a 383 under the hood) had an ENORMOUS back seat! Cheers, Dwight (...that oft times came in REEEEEAL handy at the Harbor Drive-In Theater, back then....for a...ahem...better view of the screen, of course) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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First Dodge I have ever owned. Sweet so far. 2006 Magnum Hemi 5.7 R/T AWD. 
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and still tows a 5th wheel. Can your Toyota do that?
Not everyone WANTS or NEEDS to haul a 5th wheel or a bunch of horses or whatever. AND those little econoboxes can go faster on about 1/4th the gas...
BUT!! That being said, if you WANT or NEED to tow something, there's just no replacement for a fullsize truck
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Yep, own and have owned many Mopar products.... currently have a Neon with 200K miles (running strong) and a Durango and in our company have bought and still running 4 dodge trucks... they take a licking and keep ticking..............
People that drive Mopar are different,,,,,just like Triumph riders..... I think it is that we are cut from a finer weave of cloth !
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i find it amazing you guys love there RAM's, everyone i have ever known has had tons of problems with them, especially trannys
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A contractor hear in town had all Dodge products, Rams, Durangos, etc. He keeps 5 or 6 vehicles going all the time, He is now running all Ford products. lots of tranny problems. He had a ram a few yrs. back that if you had to slam on the brakes for any reason, the frame would flex and the windshield would crack in bottom left corner. This happened to him twice and the dealer told him he had seen quite a few of these.
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I've had a number of Dodge pickups, the best were my '88 W250 and 89 Ramcharger, those old ones lasted forever. My current 00 dakota has not been as dependable or strong. It will be my last dodge, unless they put a cummins in the Dakota. My other car is a jetta tdi, cant complain about 52 mpg. Dodge quality seems to be declining, but I have heard a lot of complaints about the new superdutys, the diesels are crap.
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