It's very obvious watching that show that those guys build bikes with one thing in mind......looks. you never hear them talking about anything else as they build them. Most of them have front ends raked out so far i'd be afraid to ride em. they're nothing more than show pieces, not rides. I'm not suprised at all Billy wasn't happy with the ride. I don't think the tuttles know a thing about geometry and what makes a bike ridable. They just know cosmetics and thats where it ends.Wouldn't ride one of those deathtraps for nothin'!