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They didn't win they out lasted.




The old German WW1 "We were stabbed in the back"

I always remember the helicopters being pushing into the sea off the carriers decks and the scramble and panic trying to get on the choppers off the US Saigon embassy roof.Didn't look like "out lasting" to me Ian. WE [Australia was there too] for whatever the reasons, lost.




In 1979 I was flying search missions to find Vietnamese refugees in boats fleeing the terror there. Funny how people have forgotten that. I personally only found one boat, but they were all dead already.


We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.