New Trident
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Re: New Trident
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Lack of development and diversity was a big problem for Triumph back when they were almost gone. It may be the demise of HD as well, they are not doing very well lately. In the case of HD it may now be too little too late. Electric motorcycles seem to be an emerging market, I have no interest in one but I am told it is instant torque and steady through the RPM range. I never rode one so I can only speak to what I have heard but it is a smart move to try and keep up with times. I hate to see one called Trident since it's not a triple but then again I hated when Pontiac first brought back the GTO and Chevy the Nova as those little rollerskates instead of a muscle car. If the electric bike market takes off and makes money that's security for the company and lets them build the cool retro stuff we like.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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3/4 Throttle
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If this happens then the new Trident will be as much of a failure as the last one.
Thing that is bothering me about Triumph is all the bikes coming out with the 1200 engine. I am not sure how many models you need with the same power plant.
If the dealers keep dropping here in the states it is not going to matter. There is not a dealer in my state now.
3 up in Chicago, but that traffic scares me in my jeep. Cannot imagine doing it on my bike.
Road Rash Heals. Freckles Grow Back. Ride
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Loquacious
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If the dealers keep dropping here in the states it is not going to matter. There is not a dealer in my state now.
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Yep. It seems that Triumph dealers are rarer than when I bought my 2005 Speedmaster.
Indian is starting to run into dealer issues too. The financial requirements that Polaris imposes on dealers makes it very hard to turn a profit. One Indian dealer that closed this year described it as paying money to Polaris for the right to hang an Indian sign outside. I'm guessing Triumph doesn't make it any easier.
Kevin - Luceo Non Uro
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Adjunct
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I have warmed up to the idea of an electric cycle. Most of my riding is to/from work and errands these days. With most of the major automotive brands developing more battery/electric tech it makes sense for the motorcycle makers to follow.
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Re: New Trident
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I'm holding out for the flying cars we were all going to have, as was suggested when I was in grammar school. A very looooonng time ago.
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Re: New Trident
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Flying cars have been made but they never took off. (rim shot)
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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Flying cars have been made but they never took off. (rim shot)
Wait, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang wasn't real?
06 in Mulberry. AI, Dunstalls, Nology coils, TTP
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Say it aint so Joe. https://electrek.co/2019/03/26/triumph-r...enRJ8Wh-w34ChUk
tri·dent [ˈtrīdnt] NOUN
a three-pronged spear, especially as an attribute of Poseidon (Neptune) or Britannia. a US design of submarine-launched long-range ballistic missile.
With the word trident having to do with water, maybe they should have called it suntin else? Maybe Flipper?
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=fli...amp;FORM=VRDGAR
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It seems like the Trident is also related to Britannia, the personification of Britain - which is also related to triangles and triumphs... Quote:
It was during the reign of Elizabeth I that "Britannia" came to be viewed as a personification of Britain. ... One pageant performed on the streets of London in 1605 was described in Anthony Munday's Triumphs of Reunited Britannia: On a mount triangular, as the island of Britain itself is described to be, we seat in the supreme place, under the shape of a fair and beautiful nymph, Britannia herself...
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Loquacious
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Like it or not, alternative fuels - electric in particular - appears to be the way things are going. I had a plug in hybrid for nearly a year. It cost virtually nothing to run using the electric ... though to be fair, I did go to it from a 5.7 litre Ram 1500 so pretty much anything was going to be cheaper based on our fuel prices .
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Like it or not, alternative fuels - electric in particular - appears to be the way things are going. I had a plug in hybrid for nearly a year. It cost virtually nothing to run using the electric ... though to be fair, I did go to it from a 5.7 litre Ram 1500 so pretty much anything was going to be cheaper based on our fuel prices
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How did the hybrid affect your electric utilities cost in the year you owned it ?
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Amazingly electric vehicles have been around for a very long time. There is a 20ton truck in the Boyertown Museum of Historic Vehicles that is electric from the 1920s. It was in use until the 1960s if I remember right.
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Loquacious
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Like it or not, alternative fuels - electric in particular - appears to be the way things are going. I had a plug in hybrid for nearly a year. It cost virtually nothing to run using the electric ... though to be fair, I did go to it from a 5.7 litre Ram 1500 so pretty much anything was going to be cheaper based on our fuel prices
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How did the hybrid affect your electric utilities cost in the year you owned it ?
Not very much actually, certainly cheaper than our petrol prices !! The car was a Kia Optima sedan and the battery was (I think) around 9.6 kilowatt hours. My electricity rate then was 16 pence (approx 11 cents) per kilowatt hour. A full charge got me about 30 miles on electric alone. Doesn't sound much but if the average commute is 5 miles each way (distances are a lot less over here!) so one charge of £1.54 gets someone to work and home again 1/2 of the week. When you add the fact it's a hybrid, it constantly alternates between electric, petrol or combined electric & petrol in normal use. When I sent my quarterly accounts for my VAT, my petrol dropped from £120-£150 per week (Ram) to £58 per quarter for the hybrid. Economy was in the 75+mpg region without even trying. Manufacturer's unrealistic lab conditions rate is 170+mpg. Other benefits of electric/hybrid are free road tax (our annual fee that ranges from free to more than £550 per year), free congestion charges in such as London etc. I actually know of one service station on a motorway services near to me that had an electric charger for the Optima that was actually free to use too.
Funny how some people think electric cars are a new thing. In the US at the turn of the 20th century, 40% of cars were steam powered, 38% were electric and 22% were gasoline and 33,842 electric cars were registered in the US (thank you Google )
I currently drive a Chrysler 300c (my third one) and I'm getting mid 30s mpg on the 3 litre diesel. Our current diesel price locally is £1.35 per litre and at 3.785 litres per US gallon, we're paying approx equivalent $7.15 per gallon.
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"You can't believe everything you read on the internet" : William Shakespeare
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