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The new Rocket is a reality. Triumph has confirmed it is 2500ccs. The initial run will be 750 Triumph Factory Customs individually numbered with premium components similar to the Thruxton. I imagine the standard units will become available after that. Pricey. https://www.triumph-motorcycles.ca/bikes/tfc/rocket-concept
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That TFC thing seems fun. The Thruxton TFC is from $23,500 when the standard Thruxton is from $14,000 !! For me, they would need to put a lot more than a friggin' limited edition plate on there to justify that difference.  .
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that new Rocket looks better than any of the previous versions. if they keep the regular line with those looks, it'll be a contender
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It looks like a prop from "Logan's Run".
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The fuel tank alone is 100% improvement over the old one. I’m not sure about the Diavel-ish rear end though. 
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It looks like a prop from "Logan's Run".
Maybe Batman can ride one in the next movie. 
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The fuel tank alone is 100% improvement over the old one. I’m not sure about the Diavel-ish rear end though.
I always thought the left side of the R3 was it's biggest fault. Looks like they agreed. Much better.
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I always thought the left side of the R3 was it's biggest fault. Looks like they agreed. Much better.
I agree. Especially when some remove the left hand exhaust leaving that big hole under the swingarm where the crossover pipe usually goes.
Curious to see what this custom offering will morph into.
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Why not ?!
'Spy' photo looks a little TOO staged, eh?
I had an '08 R3 for more than 5yrs. What a hoot.
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Looks pretty hot.
My only problem with the Rocket (probably including this one) is its weight, which demands a bit of pre-planning (at least the older one did) in the twisties.
I am not into aircraft carriers.
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Why not ?!
'Spy' photo looks a little TOO staged, eh?
I had an '08 R3 for more than 5yrs. What a hoot.
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Looks pretty hot.
My only problem with the Rocket (probably including this one) is its weight, which demands a bit of pre-planning (at least the older one did) in the twisties.
I am not into aircraft carriers.
Did you ever ride one? So much weight (it's bigger than most car engines ffs) so low down, it handled great.
Less so in the wet if you didn't slow down 
Touring wasn't as nice to ride as a standard R3.
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Why not ?!
'Spy' photo looks a little TOO staged, eh?
I had an '08 R3 for more than 5yrs. What a hoot.
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Looks pretty hot.
My only problem with the Rocket (probably including this one) is its weight, which demands a bit of pre-planning (at least the older one did) in the twisties.
I am not into aircraft carriers.
Did you ever ride one? So much weight (it's bigger than most car engines ffs) so low down, it handled great.
Less so in the wet if you didn't so down
Touring wasn't as nice to ride as a standard R3.
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My comment wasn't speculation.
I rode a dealer's (standard R3) around for about 3 weeks back in 2010 or 11. Long story.
It seemed a bit top heavy to me and did a bit of wallowing (is that the right word?) in the twisties.
My experience.
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Wow, that surprises me you thought that. I always thought it handled WAY better than it any right to, being the big old bugger that it was. The only reason I got rid of mine before going to Romania was the cost. I though it would've been cheaper going in my car than on the R3 !  I know Martyn loved his too. .
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Looks pretty hot.
My only problem with the Rocket (probably including this one) is its weight, which demands a bit of pre-planning (at least the older one did) in the twisties.
I am not into aircraft carriers.
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My comment wasn't speculation.
I rode a dealer's (standard R3) around for about 3 weeks back in 2010 or 11. Long story.
It seemed a bit top heavy to me and did a bit of wallowing (is that the right word?) in the twisties.
My experience.
You have to remember here Thanassis, that up until the most recent water-cooled Bonneville line, and except for some of Triumph's more sportbike oriented machines made over the years, the rear shocks that have come standard on almost all other Triumphs have been pretty much cheaper lower grade units.
And so, I would guess here that even taking into consideration the old Rocket-3's weight and mass, that the thought of having lower grade rear shocks on them probably contributed much to the wallowing in the twisties you said you encountered while riding one.
(...and yes ol' buddy, "wallowing" was the right word to use here, alright)
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Love my Roadster. Have over 40k on it. I can't really complain about the handling in the twisties. Is it a crotch rocket, heck no, but compared to a lot of other cruisers, it's great. Very good ground clearance. You have to respect the torque though coming out of the corners especially if it is wet. Stay away from the painted lines also.
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Looks pretty hot.
My only problem with the Rocket (probably including this one) is its weight, which demands a bit of pre-planning (at least the older one did) in the twisties.
I am not into aircraft carriers.
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My comment wasn't speculation.
I rode a dealer's (standard R3) around for about 3 weeks back in 2010 or 11. Long story.
It seemed a bit top heavy to me and did a bit of wallowing (is that the right word?) in the twisties.
My experience.
You have to remember here Thanassis, that up until the most recent water-cooled Bonneville line, and except for some of Triumph's more sportbike oriented machines made over the years, the rear shocks that have come standard on almost all other Triumphs have been pretty much cheaper lower grade units.
And so, I would guess here that even taking into consideration the old Rocket-3's weight and mass, that the thought of having lower grade rear shocks on them probably contributed much to the wallowing in the twisties you said you encountered while riding one.
(...and yes ol' buddy, "wallowing" was the right word to use here, alright)
Could very well be. But for a bike that cost in the vicinity of 25.000 $ (23.500 Euros) here one would think decent enough shocks would be par for the course.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the bike, I just considered it needed a bit more planning when entering the twisties ... the weight probably being the major contributor (also a bit top-heavy, in my mind).
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I am not into aircraft carriers.
Each to his own I guess. 
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R3 Video Friggin' annoying test rider blipping the throttle. A lot. For no real reason cause it doesn't sound impressive !! At all. Speaker : ".. and the incredible Rocket TFC. What do you think?" Crowd : .
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Love my Roadster. Have over 40k on it. I can't really complain about the handling in the twisties. Is it a crotch rocket, heck no, but compared to a lot of other cruisers, it's great. Very good ground clearance. You have to respect the torque though coming out of the corners especially if it is wet. Stay away from the painted lines also.
I just noticed that Triumph is offering almost no parts for the Rocket Roadster. What gives?
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Love my Roadster. Have over 40k on it. I can't really complain about the handling in the twisties. Is it a crotch rocket, heck no, but compared to a lot of other cruisers, it's great. Very good ground clearance. You have to respect the torque though coming out of the corners especially if it is wet. Stay away from the painted lines also.
I just noticed that Triumph is offering almost no parts for the Rocket Roadster. What gives?
Same problem for other discontinued Triumphs models, Americas, T Birds etc.
I could be wrong but I believe the new Rocket will be available only as a Triumph Factory Custom (TFC).
Some are speculating a new lineup of Rockets will emerge. I just dont see that happening, it's always been a niche machine.
I'm glad to see Triumph updated the beast but I'm not a big fan of it. Looks like a Diavel, don't care for that Duc either.
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I own a 2015 Rocket 3 Touring and love it.
It is NOT an Aircraft Carrier. It is a Battleship.
Wife and I started doing some long haul riding last year and it will eat up the interstate. Handles extremely well in the curves, but you have to work her.
It is a heavy bike standing still, but once she starts moving the weight melts away.
I really like the new Rocket. I was a part of the consumer review a couple of years ago. 2500cc 170 hp out of the factory.
The only issue I have with it is it is a single seat, but with limited number they are producing they will sell out at a premium price. Bet we will see a 2 up model in the next couple years.
The America is still my favorite ride and gets plenty of miles.
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Just to clarify, I really like Rocket Roadsters and have been close to pulling the trigger a couple of times. I think I've moved on from that however. But this new design while I'm sure it's a blast to ride I just do not care for the look. It may grow on me if we ever see them in the show rooms.
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I own a 2015 Rocket 3 Touring and love it.
It is NOT an Aircraft Carrier. It is a Battleship.
... Handles extremely well in the curves, but you have to work her.
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Do you realize this is a contradiction in terms? A bike that handles well shouldn't require work.
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Do you realize this is a contradiction in terms? A bike that handles well shouldn't require work.
It is the weight of the bike. In corners it goes down, but I find myself pushing her tighter into it.
Coming out of the corner you cannot be afraid to give it so throttle to raise it back up.
Fact is for a bike this size it is amazing what it will do.
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Love my Roadster. ...
That particular model was the coolest of the range, in my opinion.
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Whilst, being an aged and simple soul, I can't warm to a bike where the rear end has no visible means of support.
I took the Road Less Travelled.
Now where the ****** am I?
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Whilst, being an aged and simple soul, I can't warm to a bike where the rear end has no visible means of support.
And then on the other hand, I've always thought single-sided swing arm equipped bikes are just plain sexy as all hell.
And, the only thing I don't like that much about this new Rocket is that the exhaust is a 3-into-2 setup, and whereas I think they should have kept the whole "Triple" idea/concept/theme going throughout the bike with a 3-into-3 looking muffler instead.
(...you know, maybe sort of a subdued and smaller version of the "fantail" exhaust on Craig Vetter's original re-design of the BSA Rocket-3 that would then subsequently be offered to the public as the Triumph X-75 Hurricane after BSA folded their operations)
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Now then Dwight....that WOULD be worth a look.
Always been an admirer of the Vetter Hurricane bikes.
I might even tolerate the lack of any obvious suspension at the rear.
As it is I prefer to ride my Tiger 955i with its boxes on.looks better( we use the term ' better' with Tiggers relatively speaking....petrol tank still looks to me like someone sat on a half filled balloon.)
Oh well....but I digress
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Love my Roadster. Have over 40k on it. I can't really complain about the handling in the twisties. Is it a crotch rocket, heck no, but compared to a lot of other cruisers, it's great. Very good ground clearance. You have to respect the torque though coming out of the corners especially if it is wet. Stay away from the painted lines also.
I just noticed that Triumph is offering almost no parts for the Rocket Roadster. What gives?
Same problem for other discontinued Triumphs models, Americas, T Birds etc.
I could be wrong but I believe the new Rocket will be available only as a Triumph Factory Custom (TFC).
Some are speculating a new lineup of Rockets will emerge. I just dont see that happening, it's always been a niche machine.
I'm glad to see Triumph updated the beast but I'm not a big fan of it. Looks like a Diavel, don't care for that Duc either.
Yes I don't get the styling of a lot of the new stuff and custom stuff doing away with the back guard[fender] makes them look "unfinished to me I understand "bobbed" guards but the trend is to make them non-existant.I am also not a fan of the Diavel styling.
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Yes...I agree absolutely.
I took the Road Less Travelled.
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I agree, it looks like 2/3 of a bike and somebody got bored so didn't finish it. I would not be a buyer for that motorcycle. I love the motor and power but they forgot the tail. I would buy this first. 12 grand with 1200 miles. 2018 Rocket 3
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I agree, it looks like 2/3 of a bike and somebody got bored so didn't finish it. I would not be a buyer for that motorcycle. I love the motor and power but they forgot the tail.
I would buy this first. 12 grand with 1200 miles.
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I know it's all the rage nowadays but I HATE that flat black!
I know if I bought it I would have the tins painted immediately. But at least it has a tail.
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And, the only thing I don't like that much about this new Rocket is that the exhaust is a 3-into-2 setup, and whereas I think they should have kept the whole "Triple" idea/concept/theme going throughout the bike with a 3-into-3 looking muffler instead.
Dwight,
The new Rocket is a 3 into 3 system. Two pipes on the right and one on the left. Not a lot of photos of the left hand side though.
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 I like everything about this except the rear fender/lack of section.
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I like everything about this except the rear fender/lack of section.
I have Photoshopped a back end on the new Rocket. What do you think?
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I like everything about this except the rear fender/lack of section.
I have Photoshopped a back end on the new Rocket. What do you think?
 Much better! I assume that Triumph will launch a new Rocket 3 touring edition as well at some point.
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And, the only thing I don't like that much about this new Rocket is that the exhaust is a 3-into-2 setup, and whereas I think they should have kept the whole "Triple" idea/concept/theme going throughout the bike with a 3-into-3 looking muffler instead.
Dwight,
The new Rocket is a 3 into 3 system. Two pipes on the right and one on the left. Not a lot of photos of the left hand side though.
If that's true here Greg, then sorry to say that that would be even more disappointing to me, design-wise.
You see, I've never cared for the looks of an asymmetrical exhaust layout such as that, what with two on one side and only one on the other.
Nope, like I said earlier, I'd prefer something along the line of what Craig Vetter did with his restyled BSA Rocket-3 prototype/Triumph X-75 Hurricane, and when he kept all three mufflers on the right side.
(...yep, they should've just made that muffler on the right side of this bike with three exhaust openings instead of just two, and kind'a like what MV Agusta has done with their Brutale 800 triple)
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The old Suzuki triples I had/have had the 2 outer cylanders going ito an upper pipe on each side and the center split into 2 smaller pipes under the larger ones giving 2 pipes on each side, 4 all together.  
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