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If God is actually God he can do anything he wants. If the universe can be spoken into existence he can certainly impregnate a teenage girl by wishing it. If God can create life in all it's complexity, and all the stars and planets in the universe, who are we to place restrictions on his power?
As for Jesus Christ, there are three possibilities. He was a start raving lunatic, a conniving con man or exactly who he said he was.
I personally will go with an all powerful God whose only limitations are the ones he places on himself and Jesus Christ as exactly who he said he was.
God I assume through logic, Christ through faith.
Alas, I think this discussion is in the wrong part of the site.
Sorry Larry ol' boy, but almost everything you've posited here is taking assumptions for or as fact, and unproven ones at that. And so, while your faith in certain assumptions might be strong, unfortunately your then attempt at the use of logic in your argument remains less so due to this.
But yes, you're exactly right about this thread segueing into a discussion of a subject which might be better served if placed into that "other forum" around here.
(...but then again, what would one expect to happen when the thread was titled "The Universe" and after we bunch of armchair philosophers around here spy an opportunity to pontificate upon such a thought, right?!) 
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What I have heard from ancient historians that as far as they figure there were about 5 guys that had the same story the other four just didn't get adopted by the Christian church. Bad timing I guess.
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If God is actually God he can do anything he wants. If the universe can be spoken into existence he can certainly impregnate a teenage girl by wishing it. If God can create life in all it's complexity, and all the stars and planets in the universe, who are we to place restrictions on his power?
As for Jesus Christ, there are three possibilities. He was a start raving lunatic, a conniving con man or exactly who he said he was.
I personally will go with an all powerful God whose only limitations are the ones he places on himself and Jesus Christ as exactly who he said he was.
God I assume through logic, Christ through faith.
Alas, I think this discussion is in the wrong part of the site.
Sorry Larry ol' boy, but almost everything you've posited here is taking assumptions for or as fact, and unproven ones at that. And so, while your faith in certain assumptions might be strong, unfortunately your then attempt at the use of logic in your argument remains less so due to this.
But yes, you're exactly right about this thread segueing into a discussion of a subject which might be better served if placed into that "other forum" around here.
(...but then again, what would one expect to happen when the thread was titled "The Universe" and after we bunch of armchair philosophers around here spy an opportunity to pontificate upon such a thought, right?!)
Atheists love to claim they are motivated by reason and truth but offer neither when pressed. Some very cogent arguments have been made for Intelligent Design that atheists choose to mostly ignore. Lack of iron clad definitive proof by one side of the argument does not constitute proof for the other.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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If God is actually God he can do anything he wants. If the universe can be spoken into existence he can certainly impregnate a teenage girl by wishing it. If God can create life in all it's complexity, and all the stars and planets in the universe, who are we to place restrictions on his power?
As for Jesus Christ, there are three possibilities. He was a start raving lunatic, a conniving con man or exactly who he said he was.
I personally will go with an all powerful God whose only limitations are the ones he places on himself and Jesus Christ as exactly who he said he was.
God I assume through logic, Christ through faith.
Alas, I think this discussion is in the wrong part of the site.
Sorry Larry ol' boy, but almost everything you've posited here is taking assumptions for or as fact, and unproven ones at that. And so, while your faith in certain assumptions might be strong, unfortunately your then attempt at the use of logic in your argument remains less so due to this.
But yes, you're exactly right about this thread segueing into a discussion of a subject which might be better served if placed into that "other forum" around here.
(...but then again, what would one expect to happen when the thread was titled "The Universe" and after we bunch of armchair philosophers around here spy an opportunity to pontificate upon such a thought, right?!)
Atheists love to claim they are motivated by reason and truth but offer neither when pressed. Some very cogent arguments have been made for Intelligent Design that atheists choose to mostly ignore. Lack of iron clad definitive proof by one side of the argument does not constitute proof for the other.
Absolutely!
And thus the very reason why we Agnostics are reasonably certain that Atheists are as unreasonably certain about all this as you Believers are out there, Larry.
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Who's god? The god of Abraham? Exactly who or what? Intelligent design still leaves a flaw in the discussion. What a god or gods did and when if they did exist is zero representation than anybodies god is the one or ones that did it. So an atheist is probably no more wrong than a Christian, Jew, or Muslim claiming their god is the creator. A god that is so self centered it requires obedience to its word that humans wrote down. The same god is so aloof it stays hidden and allows conflicts in belief. A god able to create everything would care as much for you as you care about the bug that hits your windshield on the way to the store. So, as the bug realizes windshields work in mysterious ways the discussion continues. 
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In another thousand years or so, people will be talking about Christianity and the myth of Jesus and his dad the same way.
Just a guess on my part, but I'd bet the village atheists were saying something similar a thousand years ago.
The French philosopher Voltaire once said, ‘A hundred years from my death the Bible will
be a museum piece.’ A hundred years after his death the French Bible Society set up its
headquarters in Voltaire’s old home in Paris.
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Who's god? The god of Abraham? Exactly who or what? Intelligent design still leaves a flaw in the discussion. What a god or gods did and when if they did exist is zero representation than anybodies god is the one or ones that did it.
So an atheist is probably no more wrong than a Christian, Jew, or Muslim claiming their god is the creator.
A god that is so self centered it requires obedience to its word that humans wrote down. The same god is so aloof it stays hidden and allows conflicts in belief. A god able to create everything would care as much for you as you care about the bug that hits your windshield on the way to the store.
So, as the bug realizes windshields work in mysterious ways the discussion continues.
Islam believes in the God of Abraham too. Muslims do not believe in the God of Jacob which is the One the Jews and Christians believe in, and Messianic Jews believe in Christ.
A self centered god would make you worship him, which i believe the world will see very soon. Why would God sacrifice His only Son, part of Himself, for you or me, and still give you a choice to live your life the way you choose?
As for writing it down, I am aloof and can't remember squat so somebody had better do it. But for argument sake i spose there is a possibility of one or two who can memorize everything by just hearing hundreds or even tens of thousands of words by hearing just one speaking engagement, but it takes a lot of faith to buy into that. Then they still write it down.
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Intelligent Design does not declare a particular God or designer. It simply points out the flaws in the idea that everything happened by accident. Atheists and Agnostics cannot begin to answer the questions ID raises. What you do with the conclusion that the universe was designed is up to you. As for judging the one who designed the universe I'm pretty sure none of us are qualified to do so.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Islam believes in the God of Abraham too. Muslims do not believe in the God of Jacob which is the One the Jews and Christians believe in, and Messianic Jews believe in Christ.
A self centered god would make you worship him, which i believe the world will see very soon. Why would God sacrifice His only Son, part of Himself, for you or me, and still give you a choice to live your life the way you choose?
As for writing it down, I am aloof and can't remember squat so somebody had better do it. But for argument sake i spose there is a possibility of one or two who can memorize everything by just hearing hundreds or even tens of thousands of words by hearing just one speaking engagement, but it takes a lot of faith to buy into that. Then they still write it down.
God would not sacrifice his son for us. Sacrifice would not be needed at all, its simply silly. If you think he made all of everything, he surely would need no messenger. He would simply implant what he wanted in our heads. Once implanted man would not have to write it down anymore than a fish would not know how to swim. It would be part of us.
If god did not exist man would have invented him is the same as god does not exist so man invented him. No difference at all because we have no clue about the answer. We are too stupid to understand everything about our own earth let alone the universe. That being the case we surely don't need mortals preaching what we need to believe about supernatural stuff as if its fact.
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Or you could reply just that you don't believe it- without calling it "hog wash" and not offend anybody in the process. 
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Ron, cool name btw, we won't agree on this but you are missing the point. If everything were implanted in our heads, would that solve everything or anything here on earth? Too many humans think they be gods now as it is and it is their goal to suppress us. I would like to think we could all work together for the common good, but would only happen if we were not free thinkers. We still have freedom of choice, and we don't choose the same which makes us unique. Think of how much more evil we could right now be if we knew everything and if we were even to consider it evil, like school shootings. I bet you there is someone who calls it a necessary evil. Shuddering thought. We would still be fighting and warring only it would be so much worse, we would have destroyed earth long ago and found another planet to destroy. Why would we want motorcycles except for pure pleasure? We would think oil is so messy it would be beneath us to touch it. Maybe we would have slaves, oops, i mean servants to service bikes but they would have the same knowledge too and tell us to go pound the road which we would not need anyways because we would just teleport. We would not even be here bouncing ideas off each other, we'd already know. It would be a relief not to read this for some but would be a boring, socialistic, maybe totalitarian society that we have all read about but failed to learn from. And we have a choice not to read too. We would be robots, no satisfaction of a job well done (via learning curve here which you guys enjoy teaching and i have enjoyed learning, thank you), no fun, no feeling of love, making love would be a chore (it may be now for some  ). Just blah. Would we really still just be animals? Eat, sleep, reproduce, repeat. It may be someone's utopia. I hope we can counter point without malice as i still hope to meet a bunch of yas someday. Long ago i read the name Ron can mean king or tyrant  . If i ever come across that way, please let me know.
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...That being the case we surely don't need mortals preaching what we need to believe about supernatural stuff as if its fact.
Why Ron! SURE we do!
Uh-huh. Evidently you haven't heard that this sort of thing is the ONLY way people and the societies they live in don't fall into total chaos.
(...you know...kind of a whole "control mechanism" sort'a thing)
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(...you know...kind of a whole "control mechanism" sort'a thing)
You've hit the nail on the head Dwight,all religions as we know them today were set up and supported by the ruling or upper class to keep the peasants under control.
They instilled in the peasants that the "next life" would be better and that the more they suffered in this life the better the next life would be.
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Ron, cool name btw, we won't agree on this but you are missing the point.
I think he misses the point on purpose.
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(...you know...kind of a whole "control mechanism" sort'a thing)
You've hit the nail on the head Dwight,all religions as we know them today were set up and supported by the ruling or upper class to keep the peasants under control.
They instilled in the peasants that the "next life" would be better and that the more they suffered in this life the better the next life would be.
Of course and they wrote the laws to benefit themselves. But that is kind of a different bend on this subject however it is the one that sticks in my craw the most how religion has been used forever. Whether it is blowing up people because they want to determine their own destiny or warping the truths to brainwash the masses it is hypocracy any way you look at it.
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According to the Bible, we are living in New Testament times where the only 2 commandments are:
1. Love God.
2. Treat others as you would treat yourself.
That hardly sounds like the upper class holding the peasants down.
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According to the Bible, we are living in New Testament times where the only 2 commandments are:
1. Love God.
2. Treat others as you would treat yourself.
That hardly sounds like the upper class holding the peasants down.
OH, well if we're now paring down the Ten Commandments to just TWO here, then personally I'll go with the two that George Carlin pares 'em down to in this classic routine of his...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk81tUUhRig
(...okay, okay, so he actually adds a third one at the end of his routine, BUT in my view it's perhaps THE most important one of the remaining ones, and with THAT of course being: "KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF"...and oh what a better world it would TRULY be if only MORE people would do that, 'cause ol' George was DEFINITELY onto somethin' THERE, alright!!!)
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In another thousand years or so, people will be talking about christianity and the myth of Jesus and his dad the same way.
This could all be seen as comedy until this. Then the mighty Dwight uses a vulgar, pathetic pos to prove his point ? Personal for me
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I wonder if the people that used to worship Zeus or Odin had such thin skin when anyone questioned their beliefs...
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I like the keep it to yourself bit, if the Muslums would do that I wouldn't have an issue with them.
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If certain Christian groups would do the same I would probably still have a problem with the dogma as I do with the dogma of most religions. I kind of like the Vietnamese where I am at present they pray for and to their ancesters there is really very few that belong to organized religions. That said the biggest Catholic church is a block away from our hotel and they ring the bells at the oddest times and for undetermined lengths and intensities. Like 530 AM or PM for 5 minutes at full intensity what the heck is with that? Are they on Newfoundland time?
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I wonder if the people that used to worship Zeus or Odin had such thin skin when anyone questioned their beliefs...
Yes, they killed them until they surrendered and were assimilated into the lying part I mentioned. Meaning the ones under the boot of the other professed to agreeing with the one wearing the boots religion.
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Ron, cool name btw, we won't agree on this but you are missing the point.
I think he misses the point on purpose.
I don't miss the point at all. The point is different for many people. The intellectual discussion of intelligent design often is a wedge discussion. It is designed to swing people to agreement on the design of everything was thought out. Then it moves toward mono-theistic faith and "oh, I happen to have these two books that tell us everything we need to know". That is one reason folks engage in the discussion. We have no clue who or what started it all is another reason to avoid hearing from those that have the two books, one book, sanskrit, or fun story that proves it.
If somebody gets butt hurt it is generally over belief not IQ. Because religion is so ingrained the discussion is over before it starts followed by the preaching. In general terms you cannot move a person of faith in any direction. In time many will move themselves.
The atheist is no more reprehensible than the devote. One is usually annoying white noise to the other. 
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Long ago i read the name Ron can mean king or tyrant . If i ever come across that way, please let me know.
Both sides of my family are Norwegian. "Rules with counsel or great counsel." My religion is try not to leave others worse than you found them. All the rest of the cosmos stuff is way outside of my educational expertise.
But, a god who could make everything from nothing can make us so we don't do the things you mention. Kind of like an anti-virus. Have you wondered if the time for wondering is over and those who went before us dropped the ball? Eternal separation may be a valid term and not a threat.
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In another thousand years or so, people will be talking about christianity and the myth of Jesus and his dad the same way.
This could all be seen as comedy until this. Then the mighty Dwight uses a vulgar, pathetic pos to prove his point ? Personal for me
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Evidently Mike here isn't a big George Carlin fan.
But yep, I suppose Carlin could be "vulgar" at times, but once again his LAST "point" made in that old routine, OR if you will his last proposed "Commandment" in that old routine, is just about as spot-on as it gets!
"Vulgar" or not!
Sorry if I hurt your feelings and somehow made it seem "personal" to you here by posting Carlin's routine, Mike.
(...and so, "mighty" Dwight signing off for now TOO here...sure hate it whenever I hurt people's feelings by posting Carlin...I guess HE was always an "acquired taste" TOO, huh!...I sometimes forget that, ya know)
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Long ago i read the name Ron can mean king or tyrant . If i ever come across that way, please let me know.
Both sides of my family are Norwegian. "Rules with counsel or great counsel." My religion is try not to leave others worse than you found them. All the rest of the cosmos stuff is way outside of my educational expertise.
But, a god who could make everything from nothing can make us so we don't do the things you mention. Kind of like an anti-virus. Have you wondered if the time for wondering is over and those who went before us dropped the ball? Eternal separation may be a valid term and not a threat.
"Norwegian" ya say, Ron?! Wow, didn't know that about your lineage, ol' buddy!
Saaaaay, do ya still have any relatives or contacts over there in the old country, ol' boy?
Ya see, just recently I've heard that we don't have nearly enough Norwegians immigrating to this (still great) country of ours, and so was just wonderin' here if perhaps you could maybe talk some of 'em into movin' over here.
(...okay okay, so I lied above..."mighty" Dwight HASN'T "left the building" afterall, and runs the continued risk of further "hurting the feelings" of others...so sue me!!!)
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That bit by Carlin is the epitome of hypocrisy!
He goes on and on telling whoever will listen about his athiesm, which is faith based. And then tells people who hold to a different faith that they have to keep their faith to themselves.
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That bit by Carlin is the epitome of hypocrisy!
He goes on and on telling whoever will listen about his athiesm, which is faith based. And then tells people who hold to a different faith that they have to keep their faith to themselves.
Yeah James, I suppose that your point here might be a valid one...maybe. However, from what I've witnessed over these 65 years of existence on this planet, no more so than the hypocrisy I've often seen exhibited by many of the so-called Faithful I've observed over that amount of time.
(...still though, at least YOU didn't "leave in a huff" like Mike did after watching Carlin's display of "hypocrisy" there...and so, hats off to YOU here, anyway!!!)
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Carlin is a comedian, have to take him for what he is. That being said I love his Window Box album along with many of his stand up routines.
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Bolthorn was Bestla's mother a frost giant. Buri was formed by a cow and was the father of Borr. So the frost giant and Borr made Odin. Absolutely clear to any casual onlooker.
How can you not keep up with this? It all started with a cow and the sweat from the cow as it licked the ice to make the rivers made the giant gods.
I don't think we are sure where the cow came from but the rest is clearly factual. 
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Yes,Dwight, dozens in Bergen and a few outside of Oslo. No, they don't want to come to this poopyhole. 
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(...you know...kind of a whole "control mechanism" sort'a thing)
You've hit the nail on the head Dwight,all religions as we know them today were set up and supported by the ruling or upper class to keep the peasants under control.
They instilled in the peasants that the "next life" would be better and that the more they suffered in this life the better the next life would be.
 " You are being downtrodden by us so things will be better for you next life.Now give us your goods and chatels!"
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Yes,Dwight, dozens in Bergen and a few outside of Oslo. No, they don't want to come to this poopyhole.
Bergen was lovely when I visited.I get along great with Most Scandahoovians.The most serious Christian people I ever encountered where in Norway in a town called Vaadso above the Artic Circle.Wouldn't give me a room for my girlfriend and I because we weren't married.WOW!This was in the 1980s!
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Yes,Dwight, dozens in Bergen and a few outside of Oslo. No, they don't want to come to this poopyhole.
Yeah, BUT at least in PARTS of this country you can ride a motorcycle all year LONG anyway, dude!!!
(...well, without freezin' your ASS off anyway!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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I remember when Carlin busted on the scene with his Hippy Dippy Weather Man. Good stuff! I may be on the opposite side of him on this issue but I've always enjoyed his comedy and sense of humor.
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5 reasons for religon They missed controlling people.
WHOOPS! And now there YOU have gone and "hurt MY feelings" here with this posting, Paul, you darn Aussie, you!
Yep, ya see I don't like being reminded that there's STILL in this day and age a sizable percentage of my fellow Americans who believe that "the earth is only 10,000 years old"!
(...yep, ya see that's kind of embarrassing to me "personally"!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Don't be embarassed Dwight You are NOT "your brothers keeper"
Dinosaur.
"Oh Man I only ride 'em.I don't know what makes 'em work". Donald "Oddball" Sutherland
"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Those rules are tough. Lucky my right hand is my mouse hand.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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Don't be embarassed Dwight You are NOT "your brothers keeper"
Thank God!
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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