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My '06 America won't crank...got a brand new battery, keep hearing a clicking from what sounds like under the tank. The bike will crank if i jump the solenoid, so I took the solenoid switch off my '04 America and it did the same thing so that eliminated the problem being the solenoid. Anybody gotany ideas or suggestions?? I'm heading to get some fuses now maybe that's it I'm kinda stumped...isn't there a starter relay switch on the bike?? Could someone tell me where its located maybe i cld take it off the 04 and see f that's the problem
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Probably the relay under the tank is bad from what you describe.
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What exactly is that relay?? I can see under my tank and my spark plug wires go into some kind of black box...would that be the ignition module? I dont have a Haynes manual so I'm kinda in the dark as to where everything is. Thanks for the help...
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Under the tank, along the right side of the frame spine, in close proximity to the blinker relay. A lot easier to deal with if you pull the tank. Seeing that so many have issues (including me) with that relay, I am of the conclusion that it's a manifestation on a electrical design flaw. Don't spend the time waiting for or the big money Triumph charges for that relay. All you need for a replacement is a relay with the right number of spades in the right config. and the number values relatively close. If you pay $8 for a new one, you paid too much.
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Under the tank, along the right side of the frame spine, in close proximity to the blinker relay. A lot easier to deal with if you pull the tank. Seeing that so many have issues (including me) with that relay, I am of the conclusion that it's a manifestation on a electrical design flaw. Don't spend the time waiting for or the big money Triumph charges for that relay. All you need for a replacement is a relay with the right number of spades in the right config. and the number values relatively close. If you pay $8 for a new one, you paid too much.
My first thought is also the relay. I have blown this twice and both times was right after I washed the bike. After the first time I was always careful to not get water under the tank even though I coated the relay in dialectric grease.After the second time I believe that the short or surge or whatever came from the headlight bucket. You know when you see that headlight covered in splattered bugs so you nail it with the high pressure spayer. I took apart the headlight assembly and covered all all the connections in dialectric grease and have not had a problem since.
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Rez, the relay is a small black box about an inch and a half. There's two of them together on the frame backbone. The plug wires run into the other two boxes, those are coils and the igniter is the odd shaped black box on the left side of the frame. Take the relay to a parts store and get one, Bosch make one, most of those are sorta standard if you get the same amp rating. I think the starter relay is a 30.
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Ok guys i took those two black boxes off my 04 and put em on bike but still nothing (those would be the coils correct?)...still getting the clicking sound...so is there another small black box that is actually the relay you speak of...?? I've left the house for a bit so I'm not right in front of the bike will check when i get back home...luckily i have the 04 to pilfer parts. Thanks for all the help and info everyone...I'm not very mechanically inclined so all the help is greatly appreciated.
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If you pull the tank you can put your finger on the relay and feel it when it clicks.
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Ok i found the relay pulled it off the old bike and will install tomorrow when there's light will post the outcome thanks again for the help guys
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These are the relays 
2006 865 Neon Blue/Jet Black Speedmaster,790cams, TTP Stage 2 Firestarter, Epco Exhaust with 10.25" Samson Vrod baffles, UNI pods with 40 pilots, 150 mains,Thruxton needles, 3 turns out.
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and that's the igniter (CDI) on the opposite side of the frame with the two 8mm bolts
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Well guys i changed out the ignitor and both those relays to no avail...still won't crank GGGGRRRRR. Also took my new battery and had it tested and its fine. A friend told me that if theres a clicking from starter switch then it shld b ok....i took a tester to solenoid to see if wire to starter might be gone but it lit up fine...only thing i can think of is that it might be the starter itself. I'm stumped and getting frustrated ...i shld be riding!! Anybody with ideas or suggestions ??
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Did you try jumping across the two main poles of the solenoid and see if she cranks?
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You stated that if you jump the selonoid the engine cranks,you also said the selonoid is getting power when you push the start button. You have a bad selonoid or in your case you have 2 bad ones.
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Well I'm back at it...took the bike to my mechanic and he said i had a bad fuse...a #15 (which i tried initially but it didn't work). So i ride the last two days with no problem then BAM this morning same problem...WTF...? Could there be something making it burn fuses? I'm gonna go by and get some #15 fuses today and see if it will crank GGGRRRR
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