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As long as we're quoting Wiki, we might as well ask why ethanol was first used in gasoline and when.
"Gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol began a decades-long growth in the United States in the late 1970s. The demand for ethanol produced from field corn was spurred by the discovery that methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE) was contaminating groundwater.[27][30] MTBE's use as an oxygenate additive was widespread due to mandates in the Clean Air Act amendments of 1992 to reduce carbon monoxide emissions. MTBE in gasoline had been banned in almost 20 states by 2006. Suppliers were concerned about potential litigation and a 2005 court decision denying legal protection for MTBE.[citation needed] MTBE's fall from grace opened a new market for ethanol, its primary substitute.[27] Corn prices at the time were around US$2 a bushel.[citation needed] Farmers saw a new market and increased production. This demand shift took place at a time when oil prices were rising."
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Fe Butt
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You are the one that said thank the green folks. Ethanol is a Republican deal along with the left. GHW Bush did the ethanol and clean air act and in 2005 GW Bush with a Republican House and Senate did the Energy policy act that increased ethanol in the gas.
Yes you should have thought the Bush family would be in it. Because its a fact. Link
the Act increases the amount of biofuel (usually ethanol) that must be mixed with gasoline sold in the United States to 4 billion US gallons (15,000,000 m3) by 2006, 6.1 billion US gallons (23,000,000 m3) by 2009 and 7.5 billion US gallons (28,000,000 m3) by 2012;[3] two years later, the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 extended the target to 36 billion US gallons (140,000,000 m3) by 2022.[4]
So you admit that Obama is so incompetent that he and the rest of the left even when in total control were unable to change that so now in 2015 it is still the fault of the president from 2005? Now I understand.
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No, its the fault of both of them. Now we have a Republican House and a Republican Senate. Where is the proposed law to take ethanol requirements out?
Ethanol became regulated as law in gasoline under the Bush family and Republican majorities. Of course Democrats want it, I expect it from them.
But the statement was wrong. It had not a thing to do with Green, aliens, or left. It was a right thing. I even posted a link to show the amount of influence Archer Daniels Midland has over the politicians.
You can't make up your own truth. There is only one, the facts.
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and mushrooms are in full season in the Houston area
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and mushrooms are in full season in the Houston area
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But not long ago, the Bushes were called "Big Oil". Why would they want to "dilute" their profits? So confused.  Good Night, all! 
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GHW was oil but sold his interest in Offshore drilling in the 70s. He was worth several million by that time. Big money and real estate holdings from Prescott Bush were what made them all worth money.
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The beginnings of the Bush family wealth is Samuel Prescott Bush. Son of a Episcopal priest who rose from an apprenticeship to being a master mechanic then superintendent of motive power for a railroad in the mid-west. He was then hired by a railroad parts company ran by JD Rockefeller's brother, he took over when the brother retired. There he became friends with the railroad magnate E. H. Harriman. That is were the advantages spring from.
The key to Bush family wealth is the hard work and near industrial genius of Samuel Prescott Bush and his connections to the Harriman family. Without that his sons don't go to prep schools, go to Ivy universities, and marry Harriman connected wives.
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But not long ago, the Bushes were called "Big Oil". Why would they want to "dilute" their profits?
So confused.
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George H W Bush is the oil Bush, after serving in WWII and graduating from Yale he moved his family to West Texas to work for Dresser Industries, an oil supply and services company, as a sales clerk. Dresser was owned by Brown Brothers Heriman, investment bankers, were his dad Prescott worked. HW left to become a wildcatter, with a partner founded Zapata Petroleum where he became a millionaire prior to entering politics.
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Dresser is still in business as "Dresser Rand", Mostly they do refinery turn arounds, contract maintenance, and pump repair on wells. Good company to get on with, they hire Union Millwrights almost exclusively. My son is working for them right now on the North Slope, 6 weeks of 7/12s on and 6 weeks off.
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Dresser is still in business as "Dresser Rand", Mostly they do refinery turn arounds, contract maintenance, and pump repair on wells. Good company to get on with, they hire Union Millwrights almost exclusively. My son is working for them right now on the North Slope, 6 weeks of 7/12s on and 6 weeks off.
The Halliburton Empire! You guys are talking huge companies.
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Yes it was part of the Haliburton Empire from 1998 to 2001, 3 years of a 100 year Dresser history.
Dresser is owned by GE now. It's been traded around, had mergers and partnerships with the likes Galion, Ingersol-Rand, IH, etc.
It's what happens second or third generations of an old company want to ca$h in.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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But not long ago, the Bushes were called "Big Oil". Why would they want to "dilute" their profits?
We really need that SARCASM graemlin that was bandied about on here a few years ago.
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But SARCASM is my main communication tool. 
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If Obama make patsy with Iraz then you can expect the price of oil to collapse they have so much in tankers and in the ground it will be lucky to hit $40 in the near future. Then maybe corn can go back to makin food. I aint sayin yur invesment mite be in jepordy I's just sayin you might maybe think neither oil or ethanol will pay for good dividends for your long term prosperity.
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