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I have been looking at various adventure motocycles. The Tiger is under consideration and (being a TBA owner), the Triumph Scrambler has been looked to as well.
The question has come to mind, I never see the Triumph Scrambler mentioned, or placed in the various ADV "shoot outs" published in the moto-rags.
Is it a lack of accessories, poor or lack of marketing, or lack of performance from the Scrambler?
I realize the exhaust is not in the most advantageous location for the placement of panniers. I would think some ingenious individual could come conquer that.
So am I completely off base here?
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I know there was a review by Englishman in The Horse Backstreet Choppers on it in the last year. A favorable review. And THEY don't usually even LIKE new, stock stuff. 
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The scrambler is not really an adventure bike, think of it as more of a heavy dual sport. Scrambler is what describes the bike best, it's a bike that if you shaved a few lbs you might run the fire trails thru the woods maybe but you wouldn't take a trip to say S. America for instance where as when your talking true adv your talking bikes more like Tiger or BMW GS those bikes you can trulely take an adventure on .
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Check Pants
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Some of those Aluminum hard boxes available and a bag mounted on the rack behind you and you could carry as much stuff as a Tiger. Performance wise a Tiger will burn circles around a Scrambler, but I'm sure you knew that. Do you want a classic bike or something that looks straight out of a Transformers movie?
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Some of those Aluminum hard boxes available and a bag mounted on the rack behind you and you could carry as much stuff as a Tiger. Performance wise a Tiger will burn circles around a Scrambler, but I'm sure you knew that. Do you want a classic bike or something that looks straight out of a Transformers movie?
OR, woulddaya like'a somethin'a that'a split'sa the difference'a, an'a somethin'a from'a Italia like'a THIS'a...
The 75bhp(about 20 more than the Triumph Scrambler) new 2015 Ducati Scrambler HERE and which I think beautifully combines the "retro look" with enough power for almost anything within reason...
http://scramblerducati.com/en
(...I stumbled across this baby at the Phoenix International Motorcycle Show a few weeks back and it was "amore" at first sight!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Some of those Aluminum hard boxes available and a bag mounted on the rack behind you and you could carry as much stuff as a Tiger. Performance wise a Tiger will burn circles around a Scrambler, but I'm sure you knew that. Do you want a classic bike or something that looks straight out of a Transformers movie?
OR, woulddaya like'a somethin'a that'a split'sa the difference'a, an'a somethin'a from'a Italia like'a THIS'a...
The 75bhp(about 20 more than the Triumph Scrambler) new 2015 Ducati Scrambler HERE and which I think beautifully combines the "retro look" with enough power for almost anything within reason...
http://scramblerducati.com/en
(...I stumbled across this baby at the Phoenix International Motorcycle Show a few weeks back and it was "amore" at first sight!)
Dwight, I like that baby for sure, but I would think one would need a bit more mug guard for "scrambling" . And one big ole skid plate to protect the headers 
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I sold my America and replaced it with a Scrambler so here's my take on the bike: same power plant, same power; too heavy to treat like a dirt bike; the shorter wheelbase and steeper neck angle makes for very quick handling; standard seating makes for more buffeting at speed. I like it but I kinda miss the cruiser seating position for highway running. Happy Trails or Metal Mule can satisfy your pannier needs. Burton's Bike Bits has the desirable seating solution. Most Bonneville accessories fit except the Scram handlebars are 7/8" so there's that. There's a 1400 page sub-forum over at ADVrider to peruse for opinions and a bunch of those guys are off roading their modified bikes.
If I was buying for adventure riding I'd be on a Tiger. I prefer the joy of riding the Scram because it's so very true...riding a slow bike fast is ten times more fun than riding a fast bike slowly.
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Some of those Aluminum hard boxes available and a bag mounted on the rack behind you and you could carry as much stuff as a Tiger. Performance wise a Tiger will burn circles around a Scrambler, but I'm sure you knew that. Do you want a classic bike or something that looks straight out of a Transformers movie?
OR, woulddaya like'a somethin'a that'a split'sa the difference'a, an'a somethin'a from'a Italia like'a THIS'a...
The 75bhp(about 20 more than the Triumph Scrambler) new 2015 Ducati Scrambler HERE and which I think beautifully combines the "retro look" with enough power for almost anything within reason...
http://scramblerducati.com/en
(...I stumbled across this baby at the Phoenix International Motorcycle Show a few weeks back and it was "amore" at first sight!)
Dwight, I like that baby for sure, but I would think one would need a bit more mug guard for "scrambling" . And one big ole skid plate to protect the headers
That front jug and exhaust look way too easily smashed riding off road. I know they wouldn't have lasted long in my younger off road days.
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The exhaust, yes...the front jug, probably not as it seems high enough to me to be clear of any strikes from objects. However, and like Ed just said, that's what a bash-plate is for down lower, and I'm sure they'll have one for this model. Aah, but then again, I'm now remembering what a hellion you've said you were in those younger days of yours Ian, and so considering THAT, I MAY have to reconsider my answer here and maybe you COULD somehow cause damage to that forward cylinder! (...oh, and btw, I certainly hope you're not now thinking what I just said about YOU and a "bash plate" was any form of "bashing" in the general sense here, 'cause I was just kiddin' ya here, of course!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind I would have broken that front jug in the slate quarries I used to ride in.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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There is absolutely no doubt in my mind I would have broken that front jug in the slate quarries I used to ride in.
Operative words here being, "would have" and "used to ride in", Ian ol' boy!
Ya see, first, maybe YOU don't like this bike based upon how you rode a bike back when you were a "hellion" in your younger days, BUT at 62 y/o now days I doubt I'd be ridin' this VERY cool Ducati(if I ever purchased one, that is) in the manner in which YOU rode back in those days, and even IF there WERE "slate quarries" in MY neck of the woods around here.
(...THOUGH come to THINK of it, there IS a cement factory just a little ways away from here in Clarkdale AZ...but I doubt the Indians who own it would let me ride around in it even IF I wanted to...in other words, IF I wanted a TRUE dirtbike, I wouldn't be interested in THIS very cool Ducati...nope, 'cause I just think it looks BITCHIN', that's all!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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The Scrambler Ducati, Base model, is $500 less than the Triumph Scrambler. (not to mention 16 more HP and 97 lbs lighter) Now, there are those who say that the Duc is ill-equipped for 'Scrambling'. I contend that most who buy this bike have no intention of Scrambling. It's like when I got my wife a 'Trail Rated' Grand Cherokee. She isn't going off-roading. We decided on it for a variety of other reasons...
Ergo, if you're shopping for handling, comfort, design and may I say it, bawls.. and you're looking at:
Triumph Scrambler
Ducati Scrambler
Moto Guzzi V7
Royal E. Cont GT
Most bang for your buck?
The Ducati.
Disagree?
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Personally I wouldn't give you two bob for anything Ducati produced but that's just me . It is not a Triumph and never will be . Cheaper price ? so what ... if dog poop was 20c a kilo would you buy $10 worth ?  I like the Scrambler it has the old school cool  and if I bought one it would be used for dirt road short cuts where the bitumen runs out .... not for serious trail bike work . Australia is a big country and for me to go to let's say Lake Gairdiner in South Australia for the annual salt lake speed trials , to get access requires travelling about 120 k on unsealed road . That is after travelling across the Nullarbor Plain on the sealed Highway .
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The scrambler is not really an adventure bike, think of it as more of a heavy dual sport. Scrambler is what describes the bike best, it's a bike that if you shaved a few lbs you might run the fire trails thru the woods maybe but you wouldn't take a trip to say S. America for instance where as when your talking true adv your talking bikes more like Tiger or BMW GS those bikes you can trulely take an adventure on .
The Scrambler would be my pick for an adventure to some very remote places where durable and simple beats fast and high tech every time.
Or for something different this Sportster with stock frame and engine.
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The reason you don't see much advertising is likely to be manufacturing capacity. Same thing happened when the twin models first came out. Why spend money on ads when you are selling all you can make?
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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I like the concept but that sure is an ugly tank. It looks like a germ. 
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The tank looks kike a scale model mock up of a proposed scrotum prosthesis to me. 
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The tank looks kike a scale model mock up of a proposed scrotum prosthesis to me.
"Catching a yellow jacket in your shirt at seventy miles per hour can double your vocabulary" Author unknown
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I like the concept but that sure is an ugly tank. It looks like a germ.
Form follows function on a scrambler, that tank holds 6.3 Gallons of fuel and keeps the weight forward. A 1200cc Sportster gets 48mpg so that's over 300 miles of range. Comes in handy in very remote areas.
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