Thanks fella's. Thats why you guys are A#1, we all just love bikes. I actually bought one, kinda hard to believe myself. Had to pinch myself when I was on the road for the first twenty miles of riding it home! My son and I, the one who bought Dave's Dads bike, put about 300 miles on our bikes today, with a stop at the new Triumph dealer in Quincy Ill. to put louder pipes on his America. (He's lovin it Dave, and the louder pipes are even better!) Stopped by my insurance guy to put full coverage on. (OUCH?, nearly twice the initial quote. It seems the rate is higher cause there is very little data to compare with on this new bike.) Except for the fact that my money is running out like water for additional fees and unforseen expenses, I'm really floatin on a cloud.