Actually dwight I rode the ba for several yrs with the stock susp on it. Just last yr installed a 2nd hand set of rear proggresives. Wallowing? I've never been one to blame my tools,I truly notice just a small diff between stock and the aftermarket. As for the tiger well I must admit that its tricked out in the susp dept with ohlins rear and racetech front but that's a different animal. I have ridden tigers that were bone stock and it still handled very well but I'm kinda talented in the twistys with pretty much anything.