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Boots on the ground is the only way, huh? Sorry, but I don’t believe Bush will be able to muster the support needed for that operation, since he has already spent his political capital on Iraq. What makes you think the public here (or anywhere) is going to buy ANY case for war from Bush after being presented the “irrefutable proof of WMD’s and an IMMINENT threat in Iraq” only to see NOTHING of signifigance found? The United States is currently fully involved and struggling with a war in 2 countries, so just where are we going to find these troops to go into Iran? Thinking maybe some of you guys are suffering the same delusions of Hitler in 1945, mustering up divisions which didn’t exist, or you have such an overinflated opinion of our superiority that I pray you are never in charge! You can demean those on this board who disagree with you, by spouting the same old overly simplistic “nuke ‘em all” BS that you always spout, or you can choose for just one brief second to engage a few brain cells and THINK about our options. Do I know what the solution is, no. We have been haggling with North Korea for how long now over nukes, which they HAVE, and would only too willingly sell to terrorists for the currency they need for their crumbling economy, and yet we aren’t advocating boots on the ground there, are we. And lets just say we do put boots on the ground in Iran from these ghost divisions… Oh wait, first, we will need to enact a draft to bolster the troop levels enough for just such an operation, not to mention the transport/logistics elements needed, since these logistics will now be needed to simultaneously supply Iraq, Afghanistan, AND Iran, or should we cut our losses in Iraq and pull those troops out to go into Iran, allowing Iraq to spiral into a civil war. Or say for instance, we stay the course there, and hit Iran, what makes you think the same thing won’t happen in Iran as is happening in Iraq, i.e., an insurgency spills over from Iraq, or a homegrown one springs up (don’t forget, there are many people in their 40’s there now who remember our support for the Shah, and still hate us for all he did to his people with our support)? And lets say we do this, we take out the Iranian government, and take on the insurgency in Iran (and Iraq, and Afghanistan), then what will we do when the next totalitarian dictator springs up and says, “Hey, I want a nuke too!” ? For instance, Libya could backslide and decide to go after nukes as well, since they will now see the US fully mired down in 3 countries, and pretty much impotent to do anything. Or any number of former Soviet Republics who are now Islamic Republics? SO, are we going to sit here and bounce from country to country chasing down nukes, or focus on making our own borders safe (something the current administration has failed miserably to do as evidenced by the FLOOD coming across our southern border), so that even if terrorists do get a nuke, they have no way of delivering it on our soil short of an ICBM? Sorry, I don’t feel that the US has the right to be the worlds Police Force, nor do I WANT us to be the worlds Police Force. There are just too many crackpots out there for us to get them all, and we will bankrupt our country trying to do so. We are not equipped to do so, nor prepared to do so, and don’t kid yourself with some patriotic rhetoric that we are, and that anyone who thinks we are not is a yellow spined coward. Some of us just choose to pull our heads out of our arses and THINK about things before we jump in with both feet. And to sit there and call people cowards or unpatriotic just because they disagree with you about how we should handle a situation is just fine for a jacka#s, and I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t say that to someones face, but have no problem doing so from 1000 miles away on a keyboard, so how about arguing something on its merits and with some civility and save the name calling and rhetoric for some other loser website. As for my patriotism, I’ve done my part, and continue to do so by caring and getting involved in thinking about and acting on what I feel is best for our country (beyond spouting off some garbage the Republican or Democratic Party tell me to spout off), so if you feel the need to question it, go right ahead. There’s a place under my desk for those kinds of opinions.