 Finally - Starter Idler Case Fix
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It looks like Triumph Twin Power has come up with a fix for the dreaded starter idler gear boss failure we have seen on our twins, especially the older ones. It looks like they have machined a piece to go over the existing boss reinforcing it, utilizing JB weld so it shouldn't break. Clik the LINK
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Sweet! thanks for the info.
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What year bonnys are vulnerable to this issue?
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Nice one, Greg. This could save the day for some of us with early models.
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Don't forget to click the blue "Do I Need A Safe-Start" tab, then click the picture twice to see examples of the old and newer bosses.
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Check Pants
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Nice one, Greg. This could save the day for some of us with early models.
Keep in mind this is a fix to prevent not a fix after it happens. Doing this now will prevent the damage, not fix it after it happens. Thats a sexy looking part, too bad it can't be seen 

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Never heard of this issue until just recently, and now, since I've got an '02, I'm wondering if I should go with this peace o' mind insurance policy.
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I have been considering it, bit pricey but cheaper than fixing the broken engine.
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If you have an early model bike this should be on the must have list. Heck... I even strongly discourages a friend from buying a sweet early America because of the potential of this issue happening.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
NEW: 19 Goldwing Tour DCT
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Never heard of this issue until just recently, and now, since I've got an '02, I'm wondering if I should go with this peace o' mind insurance policy.
I would if it were mine.
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So when did we (at the site) start getting dialed in on this? Really, I'd never heard of it until Mark's (b117doc)'05 came up lame.
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Well it's done. $162 delivered seems a bit pricey but like Dog said, cheaper than fixing the engine. It'll be #1 on the spring to-do list.
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I could swear that this seemed more like an issue with the 04's than any other year... 
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So when did we (at the site) start getting dialed in on this? Really, I'd never heard of it until Mark's (b117doc)'05 came up lame.
I read the first report of this happening on here a few years ago. It doesn't happen often but when it does it seems to be on pre 05 models or grey engine cases.
SOLD: 07 Black BA, 39mm FCRs, TPUSA stage 1 head, TPUSA 813 cams, TPUSA 10.8:1 pistons, TTP #3 igniter, Specialty Spares Long Cannons, Tsukayu Hard Bags. 82HP/55tq
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I junked an engine cause of this. My brake was pretty bad. Totaly worth it. My newer 865 doesnt kick back, my 790 did all the time.
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This preventative thing is worth it that is
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I have never had mine fire back that I can remember but I have it tuned right. Just like the stories of the old Triumphs being hard to start, Mine always started on one kick because I tuned them right. Still thinking about the fix just in case it ever does.
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You could probably turn a bushing to fit in that part and have a good welder weld it in place to fix a broken one.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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