I have the current Triumph ones made for our 41mm trees and forks. First off, I do not believe that you can get them on without dropping the forks down (disclaimer:I never tried) and out of the tree. Second, the gaiters will stay put at the bottom, but I had to use a Blk. zipper strip to secure the tops (you can't see it). I Think (not 100% sure) I have an extra set out in my shop, new in the package, interested?