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Personally, I found the board has become very "clique-y". If you're in the right crowd, you get all kinds of support and shout outs. If not, well then you're on your own in trying to get decent answers or help. I used to really try and contribute what I could here, but it seems things have changed. So now, I just pop in occasionally.
A sense of community seems to have been lost, not sure why.
Steve
Blue/White 2007 TBA, Thruxton needles, Unifilter, AI removed, Polaris Bellmouth, Bubs, Nology Coils/wires, Lightbar, Ricor Intiminators, Hagon Nitros, Tall Sissy Bar w/luggage rack, Dart flyscreen & Lowers. 130 Mains, TrueGel Battery MG12-BS.
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Personally, I found the board has become very "clique-y". If you're in the right crowd, you get all kinds of support and shout outs. If not, well then you're on your own in trying to get decent answers or help. I used to really try and contribute what I could here, but it seems things have changed. So now, I just pop in occasionally.
A sense of community seems to have been lost, not sure why.
Steve
It's a shame really, and I would bet that quite a few people have left or reduced activity because of similar feelings. Maybe this forum isn't quite what it used to be, but there is still plenty of fun to be had in sections other that the lounge. I've been doing most of my posting in other categories lately largely because the lounge really does not interest me any longer. But I still want to know who is doing what to their bike, whether it's paint work, accessories or performance. And contribute advice where I can. Right now, all I'm doing is looking forward to the Arkansas Rally in a few weeks. Good riding with good people. 
Always remember to be yourself. Unless you suck. Then pretend to be someone else.
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I always try and offer help when I can, doesn't matter who is asking but I am not on as much as I used to be.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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Apparently a discussion about school over reaching it's authority is banned even when civil.
Who deleted your post, and why? 
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Apparently a discussion about school over reaching it's authority is banned even when civil.
Who deleted your post, and why?
Beats me.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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"Personally, I found the board has become very "clique-y". If you're in the right crowd...."
Where is THIS not the case?
"...now, I just pop in occasionally."
As do MOST of the "elders".
"A sense of community seems to have been lost, not sure why."
I just don't see it this way.
I agree that after John leaving us, the site may have lost it's "personality" somewhat, but that has a positive side, as John could, and would, somewhat censor things "his" way, and yes, had his own clique. I find that the current group of moderators let the threads run their own course with less interaction from their own personal beliefs, and step in only when truly needed. Kudos to ALL of them!
Have you noticed that with time, most all the "old guard" step back, or just find newer sites. Not just here, but all sites. I mean, how many times can one get motivated enough to post in the "oil threads, or "tires, or ANY issue pertaining to our bikes. After you've read them all, participated in them all, and learned from them all, what's there to hold your interest? Where as it's ALL NEW to the newby's.
Will the circle be unbroken?
And you may see me tonight
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maybe i should start posting while hammered again! 
Last edited by Yota; 09/26/2013 7:24 PM.
we should do this every weekend!
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maybe i should start posting while hammered again!
I think you absolutely must 
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Yes, drunk posting from Yota is a capital idea.
You know your mission if you choose to accept it.
I say ole bean, its a nasty task, should be much too your liking.
Get on with it then.
Its .....its.......it...arrrggggggg!
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Yota doesn't drink anymore..no wait...Yota is drinking again...no wait..Yota doesn't drink anymore...no wait...he only drinks what he home brews unless there is something else around to drink.  Let's play a game, every time Yota has a drink you have to have a drink. In short order we'll all like each other again or one hell of a brawl will break out. I'm thinking brawl 
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I like every last one of yall. Yep Im drinking right now. Gin, yes Gin. Tanqa-what ever the hell way ya spell it. That stuff.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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drinking in moderation now. i guess i could make an exception for the good of the site.
we should do this every weekend!
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Apparently a discussion about school over reaching it's authority is banned even when civil.
Who deleted your post, and why?
Beats me.
Didn't even give you the courtesy of a PM to tell you why?... 
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Political threads and other "controversial" threads don't bother me. Sure I can get "excited" or even angry about some people's opinions but I get over it rather fast. Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, even if I think the logic or information they use to come to it is foolish. There are a couple of fella's on here I could never agree on politically, but we share the love of riding bikes, so they're cool with me. Live and let live. Share what we enjoy and don't take everything else too seriously. Ride on, brothers!
After my series of strokes back in June,and the fact that the neurologists told me to watch my blood pressure, and the fact that I finally came to the conclusion that in this day and age even civil discussions with friends are almost impossible when politics is concerned (hell, I've seen ridiculously NON-political posts go nuclear political any more, it's plumb STUPID!!!), I have learned to just ignore posts from people who are obviously never going to agree with me, or worse, who post obviously inflammatory crap! Life is too short, and too full of naturally occurring crap, to get involved with self-induced and easily avoided headaches. While I'm not a fan of banned speech, and these day lean toward ignoring political posts, it is nice to NOT see them on here any more, with the dearth of BS posts being posted even on Facebook any more.
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Greg, I basically agree with you there. This site should be about what we have in common, not what separates us into different camps that can't get along with the other side for any reason. We have all read dozens if not hundreds of posts on politics and religion and gun control and etc. I venture to say that no one would confess to having their basic beliefs changed by reading them. Why would we want in inject a bunch of hateful rhetoric into something that altogether is a pleasant forum for discussing our commonality?
But then some people are out looking (trolling) for forums to start fights with people they don't know over any topic they think will stir something up. I think we are better off without that.
Long time observer of the human condition.
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I have been reading he AUP. I found not a single requirement for someone that does not wish to engage in political discussion being required to do so.
We have cool motorcycles, dress like real bad ass bikers and get our feelings hurt like 8th grade girls. "He said he doesn't like my Senator!" Waaahaaa, I quit!
I did find one thing. We have in a week about 100 posters.
I don't know how many users we have. I know we have about 4000 with 0 to less than 10 post.
Lets have an argument about something. Green bikes are faster is a simple fact so we can't argue that, umm
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Personally, I found the board has become very "clique-y". If you're in the right crowd, you get all kinds of support and shout outs. If not, well then you're on your own in trying to get decent answers or help. I used to really try and contribute what I could here, but it seems things have changed. So now, I just pop in occasionally.
A sense of community seems to have been lost, not sure why.
Steve
clique-y? How about the clique that always starts political threads? Where it not for the clique that throttles them back this board would be like most boards: mean nasty and rampant with hate and bigotry. No? Well take a look at other boards where you will read post that border on malevolence.
Yeah, at times we are heavy handed. Other times not so much. Contrary to popular opinion we do not have a zero tolerance policy. We do but in practise this is simply not so. Zero tolerance is brainless. Oops. Hopefully we can agree on that. Want to see zero tolerance in practise? Then visit http://www.motorcycleforum.com/ Only problem is you have to participate there to see it. That site will hammer you without a care. That site will BAN you for the smallest violation.
Y'all are bitchin about the lounge. Surprise! For that is exactly the nature of the Florida room. Yet just like family get togethers, take the politics outside will ya (PM's)? Sure, Uncle Joe will start it up inside, and at times extinguish it too.
Back on topic regarding moderating this board, do we shoot for encyclopedic? A cold barren wasteland with only facts being regurgitated? Or do we aim for congeniality? Riding with friends. Having a disagreement occasionally without the whole world devolving into a profane scene? Self control is paramount. Without it the hammer falls.
"Bikes parked out front mean good chicken-fried steak inside."
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It's about this forum, this ba.com. In a recent conversation with a fellow member he had this to say...
"... some of those guys don't use the forum for it's greatest feature, which is to personally meet as many of the members as possible. I tell you what, I must have met at least 100 guys from the forum, and 99% of them have been an absolute treat to be around."
That statement sums up just about everything I feel about this place.
Nothing beats the countenance of those who learn that we met on the internet, especially when the tags say Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina while side-standing in California. The only obstacle to tangible riding friendships is fear. 
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It's about this forum, this ba.com. In a recent conversation with a fellow member he had this to say...
"... some of those guys don't use the forum for it's greatest feature, which is to personally meet as many of the members as possible. I tell you what, I must have met at least 100 guys from the forum, and 99% of them have been an absolute treat to be around."
That statement sums up just about everything I feel about this place.
Nothing beats the countenance of those who learn that we met on the internet, especially when the tags say Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina while side-standing in California. The only obstacle to tangible riding friendships is fear.
I agree Jim, we have several members who've posted for many years whom I've never met. Never see them at a Rally or a get out and ride day. I would enjoy meeting some of these long standing member. What about it guys, some of you need to put that on your to do list.
And about that California trip, I hope we have the opportunity to make that journey again some day soon. Don' Stop Believing ! That's a little Journey reference, I just couldn't help myself 
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I know thisbforum use to be hopin. It was almost hard to keep up with. People were posting and many posting several posts per day. If you missed a day the thread you looked at two days ago would either have 20 new post or not even be on the front page anylonger. Now there are three day old posts on the front page, and usually more three day old posts on the front page than posts made on that day. This place has slowed down tremendously . Now I cant say why because I have no idea. I only know that it use to be much more going on around here.
I am a member of several forums and manyvof them have slowed considerably. But a few are still getting a lot of action. 2 wheeled Texans is rockin on. Biker site is slower than this one. Dungbeetles is rolling right along. Pipesmagazine keeps moving along too, but BOB is kind of slow. I dont know what will breath a little life into a slow moving forum. I do know inertia is in affect.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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I think part of it is John, or even Phil before that would come in on a questionable thread and warn to keep it civil or it would get the hammer instead of just deleting them. That kept people interested and posting. If it got out of hand then it would get locked or deleted.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains. Eat right ,Exercise ,Stay fit, Die Anyway!
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Where it not for the clique that throttles them back this board would be like most boards: mean nasty and rampant with hate and bigotry. No? Well take a look at other boards where you will read post that border on malevolence.
With due respect to yourself Jim it bothers me a little that you assume this board may be or become like this. I say all this because I feel a certain allegiance and loyalty to this place, it being my first English-speaking board.
If I take you back to the beginning of this board you will possibly remember that we had these lively debates on a daily basis for the first almost 4 years, without major drama. Specifically until around August of 06. A specific member disrupted the civility getting vitriolic almost in his every post. Not naming names but he was the fella who said he didn't believe in "Italian-Americans" or "Irish-Americans" and that you were either American or you weren't. At the same time his site avatar was the Irish flag and his site handle/name was a region in Ireland (I have actually ridden there which is why I recognized it)... for flucks sake. He also go this history AND geography messed up ... probably got it from comic books. He has since disappeared. I have better examples but am a little vague on purpose.
It was directly after his aggressive attacks that FJ and a couple of the mods started becoming somewhat trigger-happy and started treating us like we were in a nursery school. Sorry, but this is how I felt and I am a grown boy with a lot of mileage on my back, as are most.
You are right, some sites are crappy but I also know of a couple that are pretty well behaved, without any intervention.
I would like to think this could be another one, as per the early days.
Bedouin.
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Well taken Thanassis. Sometimes this board reminds of the old story of 4-5 blindfolded Triumph twin riders all describing an elephant. Depending upon the body part standing next to, they verbally describe something completely different. Then sometimes I marvel at a bunch of connected, yet disconnected folks talking about bike stuff, life stuff via the keyboard. I'm old school enough to think all these forms of communication we have are secondary to sitting face-to-face sharing stories, actually talking to each other. I wonder if we as human beans have sorted out how to best use this electronic medium? Lots of potential for misinterpretation, misrepresentation, overstating, understating. heck my own keyboard has "U's" stuck all over it  I also have memories of first Robert, then Uncle Phil, then my neighbour the good Friar & the moderators struggle with how to best deal with the banter that would pop up. And therein lies the nugget. Sure ba.com is a lot different today than before. In my mind it's always been about the people. We've all met some great people, some even Canadian, first via this electronic place, then later at a rally somewhere. I think the administrator philosophy has been to avoid flaming each other into oblivion, or running off valuable members. Oops, lunch hour over. I defer to mert, Chy, Jim, Pat, Benny, Ade. All much smarter than me  jh
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Where it not for the clique that throttles them back this board would be like most boards: mean nasty and rampant with hate and bigotry. No? Well take a look at other boards where you will read post that border on malevolence.
With due respect to yourself Jim it bothers me a little that you assume this board may be or become like this. I say all this because I feel a certain allegiance and loyalty to this place, it being my first English-speaking board.
If I take you back to the beginning of this board you will possibly remember that we had these lively debates on a daily basis for the first almost 4 years, without major drama. Specifically until around August of 06. A specific member disrupted the civility getting vitriolic almost in his every post. Not naming names but he was the fella who said he didn't believe in "Italian-Americans" or "Irish-Americans" and that you were either American or you weren't. At the same time his site avatar was the Irish flag and his site handle/name was a region in Ireland (I have actually ridden there which is why I recognized it)... for flucks sake. He also go this history AND geography messed up ... probably got it from comic books. He has since disappeared. I have better examples but am a little vague on purpose.
It was directly after his aggressive attacks that FJ and a couple of the mods started becoming somewhat trigger-happy and started treating us like we were in a nursery school. Sorry, but this is how I felt and I am a grown boy with a lot of mileage on my back, as are most.
You are right, some sites are crappy but I also know of a couple that are pretty well behaved, without any intervention.
I would like to think this could be another one, as per the early days.
I still say have two threads. One says politics and the other can say The Bar or whatever. Go in there and put on your thick skin or don't go in.
And Bedouin, you don't live in America what do you know! 
Fight, fight! 
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Where it not for the clique that throttles them back this board would be like most boards: mean nasty and rampant with hate and bigotry. No? Well take a look at other boards where you will read post that border on malevolence.
With due respect to yourself Jim it bothers me a little that you assume this board may be or become like this. I say all this because I feel a certain allegiance and loyalty to this place, it being my first English-speaking board.
If I take you back to the beginning of this board you will possibly remember that we had these lively debates on a daily basis for the first almost 4 years, without major drama. Specifically until around August of 06. A specific member disrupted the civility getting vitriolic almost in his every post. Not naming names but he was the fella who said he didn't believe in "Italian-Americans" or "Irish-Americans" and that you were either American or you weren't. At the same time his site avatar was the Irish flag and his site handle/name was a region in Ireland (I have actually ridden there which is why I recognized it)... for flucks sake. He also go this history AND geography messed up ... probably got it from comic books. He has since disappeared. I have better examples but am a little vague on purpose.
It was directly after his aggressive attacks that FJ and a couple of the mods started becoming somewhat trigger-happy and started treating us like we were in a nursery school. Sorry, but this is how I felt and I am a grown boy with a lot of mileage on my back, as are most.
You are right, some sites are crappy but I also know of a couple that are pretty well behaved, without any intervention.
I would like to think this could be another one, as per the early days.
I still say have two threads. One says politics and the other can say The Bar or whatever. Go in there and put on your thick skin or don't go in.
And Bedouin, you don't live in America what do you know! 
Fight, fight!
Really ... well then green bikes are the slowest! So there! 
Bedouin.
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Oh now, thats low! Moderator!
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I remember a poll where we didn't have but a few newer bikes. I wonder if the Speedy and America are just not selling well.
+ a lot of the information available on the bikes was pre EFI with jets settings, airbox removal etc. Maybe the tech aspects of the new just are not there and the old ones are already setup now so the forum is not needed.
It does seem much slower.
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This is the lounge. All topics should be allowed. If I want to read and talk about bikes alone I'll go to that specific sub-forum.
If everyone would just be civil, we can talk about everything.
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This is the lounge. All topics should be allowed. If I want to read and talk about bikes alone I'll go to that specific sub-forum.
If everyone would just be civil, we can talk about everything.
True but there are those who can't seem to do that.
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The last thread that got deleted was going quite civil . The one about the boy who was suspended . I didnt see one post that was vitriolic in the least bit. Now that thread is just gone.
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Fellows, Every time I get to thinking that this site has lost some of it's zip I go to the home page and read several quotes from many of you..... "What does this site mean to you?"  Aren't all of those answers still true.... Maybe many of us are going through male/female menopause or something but I still think this site is the best and appreciate all of you a lot...... with or without politics and gun controls!  So there!
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That is right Mr. Erle. The older members drop, buy a different bike, and move on. We don't seem to be replacing them.
An example is Speedmaster05. He comes in and reads the forum and is still active. He is an exception. In your link I don't even remember the names of those guys. Most don't come back.
But I am wondering as a new guy, if I didn't have any tech questions that were not in the vault, would I get into discussions. The EFI bikes have so much less information needed. They change pipes, dealer maps it. For the most part they are done. (there are exceptions but in general terms)
I have noticed with regularity somebody joins and when they post their first its usually "I just bought a 2004 America" or something like that.
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"Personally, I found the board has become very "clique-y". If you're in the right crowd...."
Where is THIS not the case?
"...now, I just pop in occasionally."
As do MOST of the "elders".
"A sense of community seems to have been lost, not sure why."
I just don't see it this way.
I agree that after John leaving us, the site may have lost it's "personality" somewhat, but that has a positive side, as John could, and would, somewhat censor things "his" way, and yes, had his own clique. I find that the current group of moderators let the threads run their own course with less interaction from their own personal beliefs, and step in only when truly needed. Kudos to ALL of them!
Have you noticed that with time, most all the "old guard" step back, or just find newer sites. Not just here, but all sites. I mean, how many times can one get motivated enough to post in the "oil threads, or "tires, or ANY issue pertaining to our bikes. After you've read them all, participated in them all, and learned from them all, what's there to hold your interest? Where as it's ALL NEW to the newby's.
Will the circle be unbroken?
I agree that the passing of the Friar changed the tone of the site.It impacted my involvement with the site. Its just not the same without him. I still lurk but don't post like I once did. I also have had most of my Speedmaster questions answered over the years. If I see something Triumph or motorcycle related I still share.
I believe that most members have a shelf life and its a constant cycle.
The management of the personalities of the members is a hard job (for the mods) and I commend them for trying. No politics....its that simple. It gets way out of hand ....fast. Trolls kick into high gear and its a mess.Been there done that. There are all kinds of sites dedicated to political discussions,go there and have at it.
Just my 2c.
Bill.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
-George Best
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Joined: Jan 2009
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Well its clear that as supposedly men and women we are incapable of any meaningful conversation that actually gets people posting in this other wise very slow moving forum. Even when it is kept civil and decent.
+1 Remember back when we could have discussions that kept things moving and people interested and posting?
Ditto and junk like that.
Now where in the hell did I leave my clique?
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2014 Surly Straggler - 16,000 miles and counting!
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Joined: Feb 2008
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Loquacious
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Loquacious
Joined: Feb 2008
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... No politics....its that simple...
Is it really? What constitutes "politics" for me may be far more limited than what it is for others, or for you.
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Joined: Feb 2005
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Fe Butt
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Fe Butt
Joined: Feb 2005
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Gotta say this thread seems to be asking the question: Has BA.com 'jumped the shark'? (...I duuno...you guys think maybe all us Fonzies around here have met our Pinky Tuscaderos, and now most of our 'episodes' are just gonna be based on some kinda lame flashback format or somethin'???) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Joined: Jan 2006
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Monkey Butt
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Monkey Butt
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I guess a heated discussion on ABATE and the fact that they are really in the helmet law side talking from both sides of their mouth would be political.. But it involves bikes.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.
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Joined: Sep 2010
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Second Wind
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Second Wind
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The imposition of helmet laws are a gross over reaching attempt to slow the growth of motorcycle usage. Rotella is the only oil , and an oil filter is bull spit because the safety valve in the bottom opens at 10 or 20 lbs of pressure. Darkside riders rule!
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
Edgar Allan Poe
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