Just curious, how would the men who founded this country react to NSA snooping and the IRS going after certain political speech? What would they have to say concerning the size and pervasiveness of modern American government? Compared to the American citizens from 1782 through 1910 how free are we? We talk about our freedom and liberty but, compared to our forefathers, how free are we? Consider the questions rhetorical, after all we don't need to close down another thread.

We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.