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I think the bikes came out pretty decent. I totally agree with Z on these. I hope they can last. They are never gonna get the Harley guys away from HD but for people with an open mind or people like us who like something different, they might make enough to keep going. If they can last for 10 years or maybe less you'll start to change some HD guys over, maybe. We'll see!



I disagree with you about the Harley guys. Indian has everything that keeps the Harley guys in the Harley camp but even more so. American made, ancient motorcycle name, a cultural icon with not a little kitsch factor, even more of a classic look and a chance to have all that without looking like everything else at bike night. Barring something unforeseen I think they will sell everything they can produce.

We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.