Ok I got everything replaced. The first time that I start it up for age minutes just to see own it runs and no leak. A couple of hours later I go and get on it and make a trip to town which is about three mile run a couple of errands and I start hearing the noise again so I pull over and check and sure enough she's leaking again. I come home and put the ratchet back on the them again just to be sure everything is tight. I start it up and still have the leak. I have repeated the above several times and still have the leak. Today I go and take everything back off to make sure I hadn't already blown the gasket and it looks fine. I put everything but the silencer on and start it up and still have the leak. I did feel around to pinpoint the leak from the begining and its actually coming from a few inched away from the block. I guess it's called the exhaust manifold but its where the the header pipe is welded on to it, there is aguess its a heat that is welded over the most of the area covering the weld between the manifold and header pipe. Anyways there is a small hole in it and the exaust is coming thru it. I check the other header pipe and its set up the same way with the same hole put its not leaking. My original thought before I replaced the copper gasket was there a hole underneath that shield somewhere but everyone that looked at it was oh no it's a blown gasket. So I'm asking for any ideals or agreement with what I think and thinking its a whole under that shield and that I just need weld that hole?