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Any time you hear "Zero Tolerance" substitute "Zero Common Sense" and "Zero Discretion" and you'll usually be right on the money. "Educators" who wonder why they are held in ever lowering esteem need only to look at situations like this to figure it out.


Well, I can agree with HALF of what ya said, Larry. "Zero Tolerance" is a dumb policy that leaves out any resolution using common sense. As to your second point, teachers might be slipping in the esteem given to them, but that's not because they aren't, for the vast majority of them, dedicated professionals. It's because parents at home and society in general are giving them an impossible load to carry. They not only have to teach the given subject, they have to teach right from wrong in the most basic sense of the word, they have to teach the kids how to get along cause their parents are socially inept themselves, and finally, they have to respond, politely, to the "my little darling" parents, who have raised children largely inept in social skills and lack basic responsibility towards themselves and society. Parents have little esteem for teachers because they have little self respect (not to be confused with self love) themselves. I know. I've been there. Before anybody critisizes teachers, take a day and observe a class room.



THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I HAVE TO LISTEN TO MY WIFE WHO IS A (oops) High School English Teacher. She cannot stand all the Admin crap, or the parents who lie and defend their cheating little Ba$ta----. Even when she has them red handed. Or the Kid, whose dad is on the board, gets kicked off the baseball team and then gets Athlete of the year! What the heck kind of message does this send? AS to common sense,,, yep it’s gone by the wayside, but it is not really the teachers it’s the admin, who by the way are so scared of being sued they over react or under react. It really is because everyone thinks teachers should be the parents so the parents can be A: Such professionals they have no time for their children or B:overwhelmed middle class who just try but come up short and C: Parents who are so messed up themselves they cannot navigate their way out of a wet paper bag. (Lets not forget the NON English speaking students who will not learn at the same rate and many, not all, have not been able to pass all these D!!!! "test" the states require. Test written by Ivy League teachers who probably never saw a real school with real street kids and gangs, and yes there are some crappy teachers who do make the news and make the good ones look bad. Just like a rice rocket squid makes all motorcyclist look bad.
My wife finishes each year on the verge of a nervous breakdown and swears she is not going back. If there were any possible way to afford it, I would tell her to quit and just do a B.S. min wage job part time. SO TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT TEACHERS,,,, DO AS ARSTARN SUGGESTED. Kids are little angels,, BS! If they think they can lie and win then they will. Even "good" kids. I say my 3 kids are good, but I know I have been bambooseled a time or two. How many times a month do you see your wife break down and start crying due to the inhuman amount of stress on her? This stress is what breaks a lot of teachers, 1 - 3 things happen. They walk out and have a break down never to teach again, or they say the He!! With it and coast. And luckily most will just hope that summer will be enough to decompress. But they really don’t get 3 months off. They have to keep their certs up to date so they have to attend summer seminars. My wife being an English teacher has I think 12 to 16. YOU tell me where the vacation is??? I am powerless to help her with any of it. I think the spouse of a teacher has a hard job. Trying to keep the partner sane. They rank right up there with a military spouse. And if they happen to be both,, add a bit more stress on to it.
I feel much better now.


Mal: "Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun?{ref, Jayne} Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really, it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting."