Thanks for the responses all. That's kind of what I picked up on. When I bought this HP laptop a month or so ago and asked for Windows 7, the salesman said it was no longer available or words to that effect. My IT brother said to avoid it if possible. Funny thing is my 20 something niece apparently adapted to it like a duck to water. Anyway I have the start button in the lower left again.
I yearn for the days when I had no telephone, actually wrote letters long hand and my Triumph had a kick start. Of course the world of ba.com is cool.
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