I have a suggestion.
The NEXT time somebody starts an "anti-Harley thread" around here, we have one of the Moderators insert this last input of Rob's here....'CUZ....I don't think ANYBODY is going to EVER say it BETTER than Rob just has!

Cheers,
Dwight
(and if anybody ever DOES...I'll nominate 'em for "poet laureate" of this freakin' place)
