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We owe them all so much
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqba0IUdiBk (respects to my brothers-in-arms from across the pond)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGneFWWNA3g (For the footsteps of the brothers I follow in and work hard to uphold what they gave to us)
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Just done my bit at the local Cenotaph, that bloody last post always brings a tear to my eye. Reckon it must be my age! Bless all those who have served and those still serving.
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I'd rather ride it than clean it!!!!
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To all those who have served their country, past and present. 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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We owe them all so much
So true
Lest we forget
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We think of them as those old guys we know but remember, they were all kids when all that happened. 17 to 25 for the vast majority. Youngsters with their whole lives in front of them, and so many cut down before they had really started living. That is what they sacrificed so that we could live free.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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I think each vet here should be given a new Triumph.
Hey, who's with me?
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Hmmm...well Chet, I always thought the BIGGEST "Triumph" any vet could receive would be his/her DISCHARGE PAPERS?!!!  (...well, at least my dearly departed Pop, who was in North Africa, Sicily, Italy, France and Germany with "Ol' Blood and Guts" Patton himself, used to tell me that anyway!) 
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Dinosaur.
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"Don't let the bastards get you down". Kris Kristofferson
"I am only paranoid because everyone is against me". Larry [Frank Burns] Linville
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Some of us who lived through those dangerous days live with regrets or "survivers remores" daily not just today.
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One of the saddest things about the great war was that all the conditions of the surrender were agreed on in mid October and it could have ended then. But, at the insistence of France, the fighting went on for nearly a month with thousands killed or injured for no greater reason that the French penchant for 'les dramatique'. I suspect that, had the Serb who shot Duke Ferdinand survived, they would have sued him for not doing it 7 years earlier so that the war could have been ended in the eleventh year.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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This goes with what Larry said Poppies
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That entire war was stupid. It was started for no discernible reason. Fought to no real conclusion and ended with incredible unjustness and spite. The combatants started with no real enmity towards each other and ended with enduring hatred that would spark another, even more destructive, war. The only thing I find positive about it was the Christmas Truce after which the Brit and German troops didn't want to fight each other. Too bad the rest of the armies didn't have the same idea. Some wars are necessary, that one was not.
We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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The Battle of Verdun. 976,000 casualties. Just unfathomable.
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One of the saddest things about the great war was that all the conditions of the surrender were agreed on in mid October and it could have ended then. But, at the insistence of France, the fighting went on for nearly a month with thousands killed or injured for no greater reason that the French penchant for 'les dramatique'. I suspect that, had the Serb who shot Duke Ferdinand survived, they would have sued him for not doing it 7 years earlier so that the war could have been ended in the eleventh year.
Another thing that was sad was that the American commanders launched an offensive on the morning of the armistice, which just meant that a lot of GI's got killed or wounded for no purpose
Too old to die young, too ugly to leave a good looking corpse
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One of the saddest things about the great war was that all the conditions of the surrender were agreed on in mid October and it could have ended then. But, at the insistence of France, the fighting went on for nearly a month with thousands killed or injured for no greater reason that the French penchant for 'les dramatique'. I suspect that, had the Serb who shot Duke Ferdinand survived, they would have sued him for not doing it 7 years earlier so that the war could have been ended in the eleventh year.
Another thing that was sad was that the American commanders launched an offensive on the morning of the armistice, which just meant that a lot of GI's got killed or wounded for no purpose
American Doughboys, Bryn...not "G.I.s" in that war.
Okay, here we go again, folks. Once again we have a conversation which reminds me of yet ANOTHER classic B&W film: "Paths of Glory"...a great movie about WWI, though in this case it's about the French Army in that war.
(...you're now free to insert your own "French Army" joke here) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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American Doughboys, Bryn...not "G.I.s" in that war.
Sorry, my mistake. But in my defence, I wasn't sure if 'Doughboys' was an insult
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Nope Bryn, that wouldn't have been an insult. (...UNLESS of course you would have added the name "Pillsbury" in front of it!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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That entire war was stupid. It was started for no discernible reason. Fought to no real conclusion and ended with incredible unjustness and spite. The combatants started with no real enmity towards each other and ended with enduring hatred that would spark another, even more destructive, war. The only thing I find positive about it was the Christmas Truce after which the Brit and German troops didn't want to fight each other. Too bad the rest of the armies didn't have the same idea. Some wars are necessary, that one was not.
As I understand it, Archduke Ferdinand was working on a plan to resolve the grievances of Serbia an a way that would be satisfactory all 'round. Had he not been assassinated, everyone would have been, if not happy, at least not so angry. Russia was obligated through treaty and ancestry to take the side of the Serbs. Kaiser Wilhelm wanted nothing to do with the war but had a treaty with the Austro-Hungarian empire that obligated Germany to attack Russia. France wanted in it because they wanted revenge for getting seriously whipped in the Franco-Prussian war some 60 years before and they wanted a chance to get the Alsace Loraine area back, so they were quick to honour their treaty with Russia. England was also party to the same treaty and was obligated to join in. The US was going through a period of isolationism when those treaties were made, so had no legitimate reason to get involved in spite of public sympathy with England and France. It wasn't until the Lusitania was torpedoed in 1917 that the US finally had an excuse to get involved. It was really unfortunate that the very treaties that made a world war inevitable were intended to prevent just such a war.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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Okay, after readin' THAT, I take back what I said earlier about "Paths of Glory" bein' the best WWI movie ever made. NOW I'm thinkin' the BEST classic movie ever made about how those countries all went to war was DEFINITELY.... " DUCK SOUP"!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA564EXYjj8&feature=fvwrel(...oh, and once AGAIN for you puppies around here, BE FOREWARNED, this clip was filmed in, once again to your "horror of horrors", BLACK AND WHITE!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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What year was color invented?
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Well Chet, If you're talkin' about the original two-strip color motion picture film process, then THAT goes all the way back to 1916, OR if you're talkin' about the three-strip Technicolor(note the lack of the superfluous 'u' here) process, then THAT actually goes back to the early 1920s but didn't find wide usage until around the late 1930s for even later, due in large part to its added costs. HowEVER, if you're talkin' about "color" in general, there seems to be a number of different schools of thought about that. Here's just a couple of those schools of thought: Now, SOME believe God "invented" not ONLY color but everything else a little over 5,000 years ago, though of course THIS school of thought seems to be lessening in numbers as the years go by, and especially since the early-to-mid 20th Century, though it seems the remaining adherents to this school of thought primarily reside in what is sometimes known as the "Heartland". I'm being American specific here, of course. And THEN there is the school of thought that "color" along with almost everything else came about by what is known as "The Big Bang Theory"(no, NOT that hilarious TV sitcom...stay with me here) which has been estimated at this time to have happened some 13.7 billion years ago...though I must warn you here that those Eggheads who came up with THIS theory seem to be changin' that number ALL the time. (...I certainly hope I have answered your question here in a satisfactory manner) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I meant color, like red, blue, and yellow. I'm pretty sure it arrived on Earth some time around 1966 (just in time for the second season of "The Wild, Wild West").
Yeah, I think I have my "facts" right (according to Leviticus).
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The decade before WWI, but most of those films are lost.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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WAIT!!! You say you "arrived"(I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you meant "born") in 1966?!!! Wow, now HERE'S a coincidence then. In that thread you just started and where I call you "one lucky bastard", I stated that EITHER you were, and I quote, "some kinda Albert Schweitzer- like dude in some past life" or that "lucky bastard" thing, AND I said "Albert Schweitzer- LIKE dude" ONLY because I thought you were born before good ol' Albert died in 1965, and thinking of course that IF good ol' Albert was still living after you were born, THEN using him SPECIFICALLY to make my point about the possibility of YOU reaping the benefits of HIS good works wouldn't make any sense at all.(yeah, like I make any sense at all around here anyway, huh!...but I digress) And so NOW that I've learned you were born AFTER good ol' Albert bit the dust, I'm startin' to think that maybe, just MAYBE there might BE somethin' to all that Reincarnation stuff AFTERALL! (...eeh...naaah...you're just one lucky bastard, that's all...nope, it's gonna take a whole lot more than THIS to make ME any kind o' "Spiritualist", boy!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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What year was color invented?
Ted Turner invented color (and colour as well) some 15 - 20 years ago for use on the TNT television channel.
Let's hope there's intelligent life somewhere in space 'cause it's buggar all down here. -- Monte Python
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WAIT!!! You say you "arrived"(I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you meant "born") in 1966?!!!
Wow, now HERE'S a coincidence then.
In that thread you just started and where I call you "one lucky bastard", I stated that EITHER you were, and I quote, "some kinda Albert Schweitzer-like dude in some past life" or that "lucky bastard" thing, AND I said "Albert Schweitzer-LIKE dude" ONLY because I thought you were born before good ol' Albert died in 1965, and thinking of course that IF good ol' Albert was still living after you were born, THEN using him SPECIFICALLY to make my point about the possibility of YOU reaping the benefits of HIS good works wouldn't make any sense at all.(yeah, like I make any sense at all around here anyway, huh!...but I digress)
And so NOW that I've learned you were born AFTER good ol' Albert bit the dust, I'm startin' to think that maybe, just MAYBE there might BE somethin' to all that Reincarnation stuff AFTERALL!
(...eeh...naaah...you're just one lucky bastard, that's all...nope, it's gonna take a whole lot more than THIS to make ME any kind o' "Spiritualist", boy!!!)
Wholly crap Dwight! LOL
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