I didn't mean to cause so much angst between friends and I could have and should have worded my first comment about this in a more toned down fashion. For instance when I stated I grabbed a rifle from ones hand I should have stated I grabbed the stock and pointed it down range; away from the elderly couple next to them. I then removed the rifle, disarmed it and told the three 'boys' that a seize fire had been called and they didn't step behind the line, empty their breach and stop waving around their AR irresponsibly. That’s when I told them un an unprofessional manner to remove themselves. It was then I figured out that these three didn't understand what was being said to them. But they didn't seem to have a problem with what I asked them to do and they did leave. As if dad(me) had scolded them. The seize fire is called over a loud speaker from the office by which a line officer comes out, checks the breaches and so on. There were several really angry guys heading in their direction(I think two of them were Mongols-different story) so I just diffused an incendiary situation. MC, I am not taken back by your comments on the way I handled things. You probably would have stopped these guys in a different way. And you would have stopped them. But it seemed like when I got there these three clown had been carrying on and the LO hadn't done a thing about it. I have kids so maybe I am a little over protective of, not just them, but everybody. Including everyone on this forum, my friends, strangers and family. And I have been really cautious about everything since John died 20 minutes after I saw him. So to see three irresponsible people putting innocent lives in danger without a care in the world; a rifle range offering no protection to their patrons just after a close friend who would never do anything like that dies in an accident has put me on high alert. I am not an aggressive person. Not at the range, work or on a winding road somewhere(well maybe when I'm riding my Thruxton). In the future I'll think twice about posting something that could be construed controversial or just not post at all. Take care guys. Doug