Sorry you feel that way Bayern710. I do not normally hear to many submariners former or present offer that kind of outlook. We see a lot of submariners here that come in for trianing on our hydraulic valves/servo valves....most are like me and are "strongly" on the bandwagon to win.

To each his own. Even if you are wrong.


"Proud to be an Infidel" ... "100% pure American Jingoist"