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I think the issue in here IMHO mirrors the pure reality of the fact that so many of those people who carry the liberal standard are completely out of touch with reality and of course are exremely annoying to those of us who were brought up outside communist enclaves like California or any of the other sad blue states. Not that there are not some conservatives there but we do find those states largely populated with sheeple who will follow or do whatever the anti-american leftist party tells them to do. Either that or they are just not following or realizing that the once patriotic democratic party has fallen from that category and is now essentially a special interest lobby for wack job organizations, terrorist infrastuctures worldwide and is truthfully viewed by the old standard Americans as an entity that is 100% non American and is rapidly becoming viewed by many as filled with Americants.

It all boils down to what you wanna be an American or an Americant.

Our history is what has made us what we are and that history was made by AmeriCANS not AmeriCANTS.

Military people in truth will say that they will die to defend the rights of the AmeriCANTS but I, for one, when I was in the military always wanted to see those Americants living somewhere else. I'd rather spill my blood for someone who gives a $$$$.

The words, deeds, and activities of all the talking heads and spokespeople of the left are clearly not an American agenda. They are the words and deeds of our worst enemies




Lots of name calling and finger waving there! Yikes!

I must say that although I often don't 100% agree with the method or the means that some of "your left" facing targets! and though I tend more center/right then they do,

1. I would say that I haven't seen any of your "anti Americanism" quite the opposite fervent Americanism.
Dwight OFTEN makes excellent points! and to blindly dismiss them without listening to them make you just as guilty of how did you put it...being "sheeple who will follow or do whatever the...party tells them to do".

I actually ENJOY hearing his oppinion and often find that we are on the same page looking for the same end ...but have vastly different oppinions on how we should reach that end...Putting Party "blinders" on FOR EITHER side is the biggest problem we now face...We automaticly assume because someone is left/right they have no value to add to any conversation...nothing could be further from the truth...

2. Both sides are more than GUILTY of becoming special intrest lobbies...just for different special interest...that brush paints both ways..

3. 03cruiser I would tend to echo those sentiments of those who have described the use of CAPS...I tend to think of it less like yelling and more like hand waving and passion (both extreamly dificult to do in type)

Further Thanks for serving! I have many friends and relatives serving and have been to more than my share of farewell/welcome home parties....Hope YOUR welcome home party is SOON and Enjoyable!!

To reduce this thread to name calling and finger pointing...instead of an exchange of (often opposing) ideas reduces it to a 3rd grade confrontation at recess...

"Oh yeah well your a pupu head"....

"Yeah well your a...."

and the whole point of the conversation is lost, no longer an exchange of ideas...just an exchange of blows!

THE VOICE OF REASON per: Stewart AF&AM/Shriner/Scoutmaster 130/45 TBS 2shim SS Uni 18/42