Funny you should say that Longmtnman, after 2 flats with spoke wheels I just put Metzlers on a set of 08 America mags yesterday. I prefer the look of spokes but I can fix a tubeless flat a whole lot faster and be on my way. After Bridgestones time will tell how much better the Metzs really are, 120 mile run seemed to feel noticably different - in a good way.