khatt, there is an over 230 year old population of hyphenated american citizens who would do better in america if they'd heed your words. any chance of "manners and respect" coming from those hyphenated americans any time soon? i highly doubt it. that said, while i agree with the idea that america would be better served by continuing the "melting pot" philosophy, the 'new immigrants' that i deal with are happier to be here than our hyphentated americans ever will declare to be.