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At the risk of sounding like my dad, what the crap is going through the minds of young adults? Just had a person come in and asked if I was hiring. She was wearing bluejean shorts, a t-shirt and had hickies on her neck.  Is it too much to ask for a job hunter to put thought into their appearance?
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Well Eddie, if you want the answer to THAT, then MY suggestion is that you TEXT a couple of 'em that question...'cause from what I'm seein' nowadays, THAT'S the ONLY freakin' way they COMMUNICATE anymore!!!
(...seems the idea of audible transmission of thoughts is now much too "old school" for 'em TOO, let ALONE the idea of all that "appearance stuff")
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Well? You live in Arkansas!  Just kidding, hell, Missouri is just Arkansas' Canada. My banker doesn't even wear a tie anymore, if I'm going to prostate myself begging for a loan I want him look the part.
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Yes Arkansas has a reputation of having its share of shoeless and toothless inhabitants. But come on! Who in their right mind would look for a job and have a tag-along who looked like a street pharmacist?
Thirty years ago, I remember business owners coming to my high school and discussing how to prepare for a job interview. Is this not a common practice?
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30 years ago? You ARE a kid then... bwhahaha Part of being a kid is being stupid. You have to get educated by making mistakes. When the little gal doesn't get the job, she may think about WHY and then suddenly decide she needs to look a bit more professional the next time. When I was a kid, I attempted to do everything opposite of the way it should be done and it cost me and I eventually figured things out a bit. She will learn or flip burgers for all eternity. My own youngest daughter hated school and dropped out of college and became a professional waitress. After a couple years she decided that folks who dressed a bit nicer and didn't get their hands dirty at work MIGHT just have a better thing going on. My missus talked her into applying at a bank and today she is a back office call center manager for one of the largest credit unions in the country. Funny hearing her talk about the "kids" that work for her; sounds like she is talking about herself at that age.
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Eeh! Whaddaya talkin' about here, George?! Why, when I WAS a kid, I was PERFECT in EVERY WAY!!!  Don't believe ME? Then just ask my PARENTS!!! (...though "luckily" in THIS case, they're both gone now, and so good luck tryin' to find out if I'm tellin' ya the truth or not here, bub!)   
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Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I'm 27 so though I'm not a teen I have a little insight into my generation. I think that a majority of kids to day feel entitled. I think that they feel like the world owes them something and if, for instance, they don't get a job they feel as though the world is wrong and not them. Many things are contributing to this I think, but a lot of it is this post modernist attitude that says right and wrong is a personal and not universal paradigm. My brother is suffering from this right now as the last few years his grades have been plummeting and he has been increasingly in trouble with the law and he has a "how dare they" attitude about it. It almost makes me want to home school my daughter. Almost
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Sure wish I could find that classic old text about all the complaints this one guy had about the "youth of today", and where at the end of it, it's attributed to Euripides or another of those ancient Greek fellows. (...might help put this whole thing into a little more perspective here, eh?!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Our youth have an insatiable desire for wealth; They have bad manners and atrocious customs reguarding dressing their hair and what garments or shoes they wear.
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Thanks Gary! Yep, THAT'S the one, alright!  So, did "you-rip-a-dees" Plato quotes off the internet or somethin'???  (...sorry, I JUST couldn't resist that one...yeah, I know, THAT was baaaaaaaaad, huh?!..."you-rip-a-dees"...SHEESH!!!!)
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Im not so old as not to remember my parents generation saying the same thing about my gen. I remember a school principal giving a lecture about our class being the worst group of youngsters to ever come through school. That was in the 70s. Seems like a long time ago. We weren't so different than the youth of today. We just didn't have as much stuff.
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I waz taught to dress for the job you are applying for. If its business then business clothes, construction work boots jeans, mechanic wear a shop shirt and work shoes.
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My 25 year old is a project engineer for a Fortune 500 company making more than I ever have. On the side he has a budding real estate management company. In two years he's turned $28,000 I loaned him into over $200,000 in equity and about $18,000/year in positive cash flow. Next week the Virginia State Board of Education is honoring him in Richmond for his volunteer work with the local middle school. He spent last Thanksgiving donating bone marrow.
My next oldest works with autistic children. In college he made it to the third round of the NCAA D1 wrestling championships. He was a math major but isn't sure what he wants to do in life so he's considering the Navy at this time.
My baby girl studies at Cornell. She's also a heptathlete and hurdler on the track team. This summer she is working at an orphanage outside of Capetown, South Africa. The Navy has a standing offer to pay for her to go to medical school.
There are plenty of great kids out there and there were plenty of idiots when we were young.
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No, I did it the "old fashioned way" and picked up a real book and looked up the quote. Strange thing to do in this "modern era" isn't it? 
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No, I did it the "old fashioned way" and picked up a real book and looked up the quote. Strange thing to do in this "modern era" isn't it?
What's a book?
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There are plenty of great kids out there and there were plenty of idiots when we were young.
What a great family you have, Chet... a true inspiration to use all! I sure agree about there being plenty of great kids out there. Right now I'm acting producer for a 15 yo girl who writes and performs music. She is good, very good. She doesn't smoke, do drugs or drink. She watches her diet and tries to eat healthily. She is polite, respectful, and honest. And she works hard at her music and is very focused. I tell you, it's an honour to know her and an honour to help her out. Yup, there's great kids out there!
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I think that a majority of kids today feel entitled. I think that they feel like the world owes them something and if, for instance, they don't get a job they feel as though the world is wrong and not them.
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better. I'm of the same generation as you Andrew and it sickens me to see how some of the people around my age act. They expect money and success to fall into their lap because "mommy and daddy said that I can do anything." 
These are the same individuals who wonder why I'm successful, but when I tell them my secret to success(work hard and perform for the job you want not the one you have, oh yeah and work hard) they go running for the hills because they might break a nail. I kid you not, some of these "adults" don't know how to change their own oil or how to use powertools; it's sad really. Not that I'm perfect but I try to distance myself from Generation DB as much as possible. I've tried to show them, but most don't seem to understand the concept of self gratification after completing a project; they see spending a extra $5 not to get your hands dirty.
What's the cause of all this? No idea.  I tend to blame it on the lack of Cold War Paranoia. It's also the parents. Once again, not perfect, but when I was sent to my room as a kid, which was the alternative to the now extinct practice of corpral punishment, there was nothing in my room but walls and a bed--it sucked. Now, these kids get sent to their rooms and it's a vaction because they've got TVs, Video Games, etc. in there. How's that a punishment?
What's the solution to all this? No idea. I'm smart; I don't have kids.  ...yet.
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You ever wonder why it's called Generation Y? as in Y do I have to get a job? Y do I have to work hard? Y won't you just do it for me? Or maybe... 
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There's a new trend around here in Asia.... "homing" for a lack of a better term.
Kids(!) from 15 to 35 years of age stay at home (room or small apartment) and never go out. They will stay in their pajamas for days and days... Their time is spent watching TV, surfing social networks and playing online games.
They do not want to find a job. They do not want to communicate directly with people. They don't care or have a clue of what's happening in the world at the moment... as long as they can stay inside their room and nobody knocks on the door.
They will live with less than a $100 a month for food.
And the number of these kids are increasing rapidly. It's not just a fad anymore, it's a trend.
And it's scary!
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Pecival, that reminds me of the ad where the oriental kid is in his room rockin on the guitar and the father unplugs the amp, confuses the kid. Have no idea what the product is being advertised or I'd link it. Makes me smile every time I see it.
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Heaven knows I made my share of mistakes from my yute to early adulthood.  Luckily, I realized that going through life acting like an idiot wasn't working. To me, it's just common sense to make the best impression when asking someone to hire you. Being in a tourist town, I see people who don't have two nickels to rub together all the way to the hoity-toity. Sometimes it just seems there are too many baby makers and not enough parents. But I digress. Hopefully, the young lady will have an epiphany and turn out fine.
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oh yeah eddie...
I've made my share of mistakes growing up... and later in life.... up to now I guess!
I was a stupid boy and did a lot of stupid things, but they helped me understand who I was and what I wanted in life.
And through all that, I kept a sense of respect... respect of others and their own.
Seems more like these days, respect is lost.
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Actually Jeff, in regard to the issue of "respect", I think Eddie was pretty much on track when he mentioned above up there about "parents"...WHO it seems in many cases today haven't learned that parents must EARN the respect of their kids. Ya see, my thoughts here are that if over 50% of the kids today come from families where Daddy and Mommy couldn't get their sh*t together(i.e. weren't freakin' MATURE) enough to learn to live together after their little freakin' brats were born, then HOW the heck do people expect that kids today would find all that much to RESPECT about their parents in the FIRST place?! (...food for thought THERE, huh!)
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Well, Dwight....
Most parents here shove their kids in front of the TV or the computer to keep'em quiet .... and that's starting at the tender age of 3. No wonder that's the only thing they know.
So I guess you're right... it does come from the parents.... I have all the respect I can for my parents. They were not perfect, but they did, in their own way, teach me some of what I consider the basic facts of life.
I see every day (being a teacher) which sons or daughters are from parents who pushed their kids to do things and the ones who were told to stay quiet in front of a screen.
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Wanting to add to my previous post...
Actually, parents are only half of the equation...
Kids these days, spend the 2/3 of their life at school. So, the parents input is limited.... A lot of it comes from which friends does a kid choose at school the be buddies with. They will share together and also learn lessons together.
Of course, you coud argue that these other kids got their education from their own parents.... and you would be absolutely right.
So, not only do you have to be good parents, but you also have to hope that your kids chooses friends who also had good parents.
Wow.... the odds....
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Well Jeff, I hate to go "all ethnic" here, but I THOUGHT the predominate Asian mentality/culture pretty much consisted of that old axiom: "The raised nail should always get hammered down". In other words, stay quiet and don't rock the boat.
(...but like I said, I "thought" this might be the case in Asia, but I could be wrong...you would know best here, I suppose)
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Kids.... can't live with them.....illegal to kill em! LOL i sometimes will tell my daughter that my yard is big enough and no-one would ever find her! 14 yr old girl..... OMG who knew!!!!! I beleive that if you teach your kids the value of respect, hard work and familly that if they ever stray from the "right path" they will eventually find there way back to their roots.... I did. I think life is just so much more demanding on people today that they are skipping the familly part, or like said above sticking their kids in front of the TV etc. My 14 yr old girl is only allowed so many texed messeages a month, no internet access on her phone etc and must.....must read one book per month minumum, and it can't be a 50 pager!
Kids today know way to much to soon, hard to be a peoper kid today while being ambushed with info overlaod every 30 seconds.....
As for me? I just be patient, and i try to guide to those who would listen along the way, what more can ya do.
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Sad to say they don't teach inteviewing skills or resume writing in High School these days. IMO it needs to be in the required curriculum to graduate.
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Looks like the job applicant I saw at WalMart this morning, but mine had an orange Mowhawk. (We boondocked at a WalMart in NC last night)
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Or social skills, manners, American English language, work ethics, or self discipline either.
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Sad to say they don't teach inteviewing skills or resume writing in High School these days. IMO it needs to be in the required curriculum to graduate.
And basic life 101. How to budget and live within one's means.
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At the risk of sounding like my dad, what the crap is going through the minds of young adults? Just had a person come in and asked if I was hiring. She was wearing bluejean shorts, a t-shirt and had hickies on her neck. Is it too much to ask for a job hunter to put thought into their appearance?
What kind of business you runnin?
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Or social skills, manners, American English language, work ethics, or self discipline either.
...or that "Triumph is still makin' motorcycles".
(...oh wait...that's an geezer thing there, huh...never mind)
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At the risk of sounding like my dad, what the crap is going through the minds of young adults? Just had a person come in and asked if I was hiring. She was wearing bluejean shorts, a t-shirt and had hickies on her neck. Is it too much to ask for a job hunter to put thought into their appearance?
What kind of business you runnin?
An orthopedic/comfort shoe store.
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Sad to say they don't teach inteviewing skills or resume writing in High School these days. IMO it needs to be in the required curriculum to graduate.
And one class of Economics.
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At the risk of sounding like my dad, what the crap is going through the minds of young adults? Just had a person come in and asked if I was hiring. She was wearing bluejean shorts, a t-shirt and had hickies on her neck. Is it too much to ask for a job hunter to put thought into their appearance?
What kind of business you runnin?
Obviously not a strip club.
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Actually, with a store named Jigglin' George's of Hot Springs, you would be surprised at the type of calls that I get. 
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.....must read one book per month minumum,
I didn't have to make that rule, I just showed her that reading can be pleasurable. 
Which is strange when you consider that during her formative years her mother decided to take her nearly 400 miles away and I only saw her twice a year for one week at at a time 
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The best thing that ever happened to my kids was having parents who were 29 and 30 years old before they started having kids.
I could no more have been a father at nineteen than I could have eaten sawdust and $hit 2 X 4's.
At 30 I relished in it. I did, however, have to keep my butt in good condition far longer than a lot of people. I once blew out a hammy running 40's with the football team when I was 47.
I was kicking butt until I crashed and burned.
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