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I ran old Chevys, Studebakers, and IH most of my life with a few Brief Fords and only Chrysler that I owned was my current Jeep that so far I love except can't haul enough. Most of these being pre 1980 Stopped counting the miles on my Chevy wrecker at about 1,000,000. 3 engines, 2 rears and 2 trannys. Most depenable and toughest were the IH that still run today both the big 4X4 wrecker and my Scout. Wish they still made small trucks.
I learned all I need to know about life by killing smart people and eating their brains.
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you can buy my Travelall, it's for sale 
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Just traded in a 2000 Taurus with 135K on it last night. It was the car I bought for my oldest 2 years ago when she turned 16 because I had a Taurus in the mid '90's that was a tank. The 2000 turned into a money pit. Originally cost $3000 but I put another $3000 in it over two years. Not really a slam on Ford but just a lesson to me not to expext much from a car that has 110K on it. Anyway the Taurus was leaking some juice in the driveway that turned out to be tranny fluid, although the level looked good. Took the car for a spin for the first time in a while and knew right away it was time for a change. My daughter never complained about it but the 'Taurie' as she called it had turned into a POS. We took it on a one way trip to a Hyundai (Korean owned, Alabama built) dealer and now she has a brand new ride (an Elantra) with a rocking warranty that should carry her through college and beyond. I let her kick in a significant down paymenet that was a result of her waitress job just to let her have the feeling of some 'skin in the game'. Looked pretty hard at a Ford Focus and a few other comparable cars but the Hyundai just had way more bang for the buck. And I do not plan on ever holding a wrench within three feet of it.
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The Cornbinders were tough alright. I had two of them, a '64 Scout and a '73 4x4 1/2 ton. Atrocious gas mileage though.  But that all wheel drive Scout with the 152cid four and 4.28 axles never got stuck; and I went some hellacious places with it.
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Who wouldn't want to hunt with that VP...
I'm guessing a fella named Harry Whittington would pass.
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I guess that will remain the capital blunder of all VP history.
Um, at least he didn't ask a cripple to stand up and be recognized!  
That reminds me of a kid that works under me. He has palsy or something like that. Another associate was looking at free doughnuts they put out for us and asked me if I thought they were OK. I saw the kid with palsy eating one and asked him if they tasted good. He said to me without skipping a beat,"They taste OK but look what they did to me." I about fell over laughing. He is a good kid and makes me laugh a lot.
The humanity of it .................I love stories like this. I have learned so much about life from those who we call handicapped. One autistic boy comes to mind right off. You have to listen to what he says because he plays word games with ya. Very clever fellow he is.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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...I have learned so much about life from those who we call handicapped. One autistic boy comes to mind right off. You have to listen to what he says because he plays word games with ya. Very clever fellow he is.
WAIT!!! "Word games", ya said Chad?! 
(...ya know, THIS could explain a whole lot o' things about my life here!!!) 
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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you can buy my Travelall, it's for sale
If I had the extra cash, Dave, I would be right there to buy it. I love those things!
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When Ford first began, he wanted to make a car for the masses. Its not that way anymore. They are over priced, over engineered, and too costly to maintain.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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I agree, it shouldn't cost me 60 grand to get a work truck...  I have the window sticker from my truck even though I bought it used, it's a regular cab, nothing out of the ordinary except 4 wheel drive and being a 1 ton,and it was 31 thousand. It's ridiculous to pay that kind of money for a tool.
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When Ford first began, he wanted to make a car for the masses. Its not that way anymore. They are over priced, over engineered, and too costly to maintain.
...and yet they're the most fiscally sound car company around.
Go figure.
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...I have learned so much about life from those who we call handicapped. One autistic boy comes to mind right off. You have to listen to what he says because he plays word games with ya. Very clever fellow he is.
WAIT!!! "Word games", ya said Chad?!
(...ya know, THIS could explain a whole lot o' things about my life here!!!)
I do speech and language therapy with kids. For the most part I just work with kids with cochlear implants. When I worked for the school system I occasionally got a kid on my caseload with other issues. The kids with Asperger's Syndrome were usually quite the characters.
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...I have learned so much about life from those who we call handicapped. One autistic boy comes to mind right off. You have to listen to what he says because he plays word games with ya. Very clever fellow he is.
WAIT!!! "Word games", ya said Chad?!
(...ya know, THIS could explain a whole lot o' things about my life here!!!)
I do speech and language therapy with kids. For the most part I just work with kids with cochlear implants. When I worked for the school system I occasionally got a kid on my caseload with other issues. The kids with Asperger's Syndrome were usually quite the characters.
Someone told me that "The Zuck", Facebook creator, suffers from Asperger's Syndrome. I don't know if that's true, but he is a strange cat.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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I agree, it shouldn't cost me 60 grand to get a work truck...
I have the window sticker from my truck even though I bought it used, it's a regular cab, nothing out of the ordinary except 4 wheel drive and being a 1 ton,and it was 31 thousand. It's ridiculous to pay that kind of money for a tool.
Don't blame domestic car manufactures for the rise in prices over the decades, they don't print money. 
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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But the one thing about new cars that REALLY, and I mean REALLY!!! PI$$ES ME OFF, is the fuel pumps in the gas tanks! I really want to meet the brainiac engineer who thought that great idea up!  
I'll 2nd that along with carbs. I used to keep a fuel pump under the seat of my wrecker. The one on the truck quit once and I had a car on the hook and stuck at a stop sign in the middle of the road. Took me about 10 minutes to be on the road again.I remember rebuilding the mechanical fuel pump in my 51 Chevy with a rebuild kit from Napa.
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I agree, it shouldn't cost me 60 grand to get a work truck...
I have the window sticker from my truck even though I bought it used, it's a regular cab, nothing out of the ordinary except 4 wheel drive and being a 1 ton,and it was 31 thousand. It's ridiculous to pay that kind of money for a tool.
Agreed, and have to pay extra if you don't want options. I remember buying trucks, like my wrecker, that came with rubber floor mats, std shift, and manual windows, if you wanted anything special you had to pay for them. Now you have no choice and if you don't want the extras it'll cost ya. No reason we shouldn't be able to buy a plain work truck for about $16,000 or a little less.
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I agree, it shouldn't cost me 60 grand to get a work truck...
I have the window sticker from my truck even though I bought it used, it's a regular cab, nothing out of the ordinary except 4 wheel drive and being a 1 ton,and it was 31 thousand. It's ridiculous to pay that kind of money for a tool.
Don't blame domestic car manufactures for the rise in prices over the decades, they don't print money.
It's not that at all, I can go buy a new Nissan Versa for under 12 grand, but since a truck is sort of a requirement for a lot of people in my profession, it's like they intentionally jack up the prices because we don't have a lot of options. There are what, 5 full size trucks to choose from? That's counting the Tundra and Titan.
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I agree, it shouldn't cost me 60 grand to get a work truck...
I have the window sticker from my truck even though I bought it used, it's a regular cab, nothing out of the ordinary except 4 wheel drive and being a 1 ton,and it was 31 thousand. It's ridiculous to pay that kind of money for a tool.
Don't blame domestic car manufactures for the rise in prices over the decades, they don't print money.
It's not that at all, I can go buy a new Nissan Versa for under 12 grand, but since a truck is sort of a requirement for a lot of people in my profession, it's like they intentionally jack up the prices because we don't have a lot of options. There are what, 5 full size trucks to choose from? That's counting the Tundra and Titan.
The price of a Datsun, Nissan, truck was what in 1970 and what is it now? You are correct concerning the market for trucks and vans, especially used when the economy is well. And especially since the general public's acceptance of trucks as normal consumer vehicles in the 80s.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Datsun/Nissan didn't even offer a real full size truck back then, did they? I'm talking about real trucks with 8' beds. I could have gotten a real work truck for a good price in the 70's from my local International dealer. I kind of wish a company would do that again, make trucks for those that need them, not for the people that pull a recreation trailer (jet ski, boat, camper) 4 times a year.
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Datsun/Nissan didn't even offer a real full size truck back then, did they? I'm talking about real trucks with 8' beds. I could have gotten a real work truck for a good price in the 70's from my local International dealer. I kind of wish a company would do that again, make trucks for those that need them, not for the people that pull a recreation trailer (jet ski, boat, camper) 4 times a year.
Ok, what did a ford F-150 cost in 1970? What did a Baby Ruth candy bar cost in 1970? Baby Ruth, bad example, because they carry a premium, are over engineered and used as a tool.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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...I have learned so much about life from those who we call handicapped. One autistic boy comes to mind right off. You have to listen to what he says because he plays word games with ya. Very clever fellow he is.
WAIT!!! "Word games", ya said Chad?!
(...ya know, THIS could explain a whole lot o' things about my life here!!!)
I do speech and language therapy with kids. For the most part I just work with kids with cochlear implants. When I worked for the school system I occasionally got a kid on my caseload with other issues. The kids with Asperger's Syndrome were usually quite the characters.
I don't know if you watch NBC's "Parenthood", Chet, but one of the storylines on that program is about a kid who has Asperger's.
Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Reminds me of the South Park episode where Cartman pretends to have Asperger's (assburgers) you can guess what he did.
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I'm in charge of a fleet of Fords, (over 400 vehicles), and I've got to say that the entire fleet is amazing to me. That's little consolation to the guy who only owns one and gets a lemon, (we've had a few), but for the most part I can say that Ford builds as good a vehicle for the money as anyone out there.
We regularly get 300,000 miles out of a pick up without changing a motor or transmission and have 1 right now at 490,000 miles on the origional engine, (new camshafts, followers, and pretensioners). It just got a transmission because the case had become porous from all to salt we use on our roads in the winter. I have 200 Crown Vic. state police cruisers in my fleet that get thrashed like no other vehicle on the road and rarely need anything other than regular maintenance.
My mechanics are all huge Ford fans and are thankful that our vehicles stand up so well. Anyway, that's been my experience.
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Having to pull the block out to time the cams was the nail in the coffin for me. Thats just dumb. I should have (but didnt because I was in a hurry)scribed some marks into the thing while it was down. If you look at the posts I made before here you can see I was always a ford man, but now I'm a man with out a country so to speak. Not one maker makes one I would keep if given to me. New one that is. If some one has a 48 or 49 ford they want to get rid of well thats another story. Nothing newer than a mid 70s.
I have no faith in human perfectability. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active - not more happy - nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago.
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Now Chad!, That sounds like somethin' Grand-pa-pa would say!  MOST newer models don't need ANYTHING, other then oil changes, for the first 100k miles! The "Good ol' cars were USUALLY shot at 100k. I'm not partial to ANY one brand from the "Old days". (Though Mopar would PROBABLY get the most top picks  ) A cool ride is a cool ride!, and they ALL have some cool rides!
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