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George Washington,A Bad Ass?
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British historians rank Washington as their greatest foe. Well, he wasn't above killing you on Xmas mourning in your sleep was he.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9204961/George-Washington-named-Britains-greatest-ever-foe.html


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Well, some of the other things attributed to Him were:
Cracking open Walnuts with His bare hands.
Throwing a coin all the way across the Delaware river.
Not too shabby.


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Don't forget, he also made his own liquor.


We all like to think of ourselves as rugged individualists. But when push comes to shove most of us are sheep who do what we are told. Worst of all, a lot of us become unpaid agents of whoever is controlling the agenda by enforcing the current dogma on the few rugged individualists who actually exist.
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Well, some of the other things attributed to Him were:
Cracking open Walnuts with His bare hands.
Throwing a coin all the way across the Delaware river.
Not too shabby.



Yeah George was the dude...there is this minor detail...it wasn't the Delaware...that was the river he crossed to go kick ass. The one he threw the "coin" across was the Rhapahannok (sp?). At any rate...he grew the gange too...but that's well known.
He was the ONLY George our country's had as pres that was worth a s**t...but maybe I'm misunderestimating....nah.

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Grew Hemp on his plantation and had wooden false teeth. Supposedly, he slept around as well.

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But, he didn't inhale.

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There is a huge difference between hemp, and marijuanna.


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Yep, good ol' George. "First in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen!”

(...but ironically was once eliminated in the first round of his elementary school spelling bee because he flat refused to spell certain words using that dumb British superfluous letter "u" they got from the French...and thus his rebelliousness had started at a very early age...yep, lucky for us independent-minded and freedom loving Yanks, huh!!!)



Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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There is a huge difference between hemp, and marijuanna.



Actually, that's true, I grew up near a WW2 rope hemp farming area in Indiana, and there is practically, no psychoactive ju-ju in rope grade hemp, although, it will crossbreed handily with a little help from the pollen of the other kind. The local sheriff/bailbondsman/attorneys and judges in that area had a real moneymaker by arresting tourists every fall, who would inevitably stop and pick it along side of the road. The plants did look like a HighTimes centerfold.

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There is a huge difference between hemp, and marijuanna.




I dunno if it's huge. But there is a difference; the amount of tetrahydrocannabinol produced. Both are cannabis sativa plants, just some have been developed for the fiber production and some for the THC content, some even for animal fodder.


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There is a huge difference between hemp, and marijuanna.




I dunno if it's huge. But there is a difference; the amount of tetrahydrocannabinol produced. Both are cannabis sativa plants, just some have been developed for the fiber production and some for the THC content, some even for animal fodder.




I read this weekend that scientist have recently developed a new "medical marijuana" plant that has all the chemicals that benefit patient's needs , but will not get them "high".


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and we should be useing that instead of corn for the ethenol additive. 1 acre cleans the air like 4 acres of trees and does not strip the earth of its nutrients like any other (such as corn)and can be grown in a short time. Edison, Ford, and Firestone did it way back then and proved it as a good alternitive but you know how much influence big oil has so i am sure it will never happen. and for fabric?? a shirt would last a lifetime but thanks to dupont and nylon we wont never see that as standard either oh dont get me started

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Grew Hemp on his plantation and had wooden false teeth. Supposedly, he slept around as well.




Btw Ryk, while Mr. Washington might have grown hemp, contrary to folklore, he never owned or wore a set of wooden teeth.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_George_Washington_have_wooden_teeth

You see, while he DID have "bad teeth" for most of his adult life(I mean he WAS British, remember?! ...sorry mates, couldn't resist that one ...yeah yeah, I know that was more of the previous generation over there), his dentures were made of ivory and metal which led to a life of oral discomfort throughout the majority of his life.


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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Grew Hemp on his plantation and had wooden false teeth. Supposedly, he slept around as well.




Btw Ryk, while Mr. Washington might have grown hemp, contrary to folklore, he never owned or wore a set of wooden teeth.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_George_Washington_have_wooden_teeth

You see, while he DID have "bad teeth" for most of his adult life(I mean he WAS British, remember?! ...sorry mates, couldn't resist that one ...yeah yeah, I know that was more of the previous generation over there), his dentures were made of ivory and metal which led to a life of oral discomfort throughout the majority of his life.




Hmmmm, ivory and metal dentures? Did the ivory teeth have nice scrimshaw on them? Sounds very comfortable to wear, so maybe that hemp WASN'T rope grade hemp. They did like to smoke the pipe back then....

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Yeah Greg! Ya know, IF your "theory" IS correct, then maybe George might have been an early adherent of the "Medical Marijuana" movement, huh!!!

(...and once he wouldn't gotten "The Munchies", the dude wouldn't have cared HOW much it would've hurt to chew 'em!...yep, I like your theory here!)


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Yep, good ol' George. "First in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen!”

(...but ironically was once eliminated in the first round of his elementary school spelling bee because he flat refused to spell certain words using that dumb British superfluous letter "u" they got from the French...and thus his rebelliousness had started at a very early age...yep, lucky for us independent-minded and freedom loving Yanks, huh!!!)







Just be glad they didn't pick up all those extra O's and X's along the way. French is the only language I know of where the spelling and pronunciation are totally unrelated.


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Well D., I wish for the sake of all, that they would end this moronic war on drugs. They say pot ruins lives, but doesn't a stay in prison do more damage? Humm I thinks we been lyed to on the matter.


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Crazyhorse, actually most illegal drugs were once legal. It wasn't till the drugs began effecting thew working classes' performance in production and the cost to the modern welfare state that they became illegal or regulated.


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken
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Thats what I have heard. Mostly I hear how it ruins the lives of youngsters. I say that the solution is not to throw them in prison and end their effective lives, but educate. People often listen if you make a realistic and honest case about a subject.


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Education? What human being doesn't understand and know the dangers of hard drug addiction in this day and age.

I'm all for legalization, let the chips fall where they may. Just don't ask me to sympathize for the losers.


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken
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Same could be said for tobacco Mac. Even with education, the aggressive marketing helps keep people addicted, as well as recruiting new addicts.

Now I come in on the side of legalization for most recreational drugs combined with education and strict regulation on marketing.
Of course, selling is the heart and soul of our economy so if they were legalized I'm sure it wouldn't be long before we were deluged with propaganda from the legal pushers.

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I smoke, but don't cry no tears for me when it kills me. And yes money makes the world go around, it will be marketed and the mafia...er I mean the gov will want their cut. It will be more expensive and DOJ will be arresting citizens for different crimes related to the production, sale and taxation.


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Education? What human being doesn't understand and know the dangers of hard drug addiction in this day and age.

I'm all for legalization, let the chips fall where they may. Just don't ask me to sympathize for the losers.



The problem is that the information is presented in a fantastic hyperbole that causes youths (particularly those rebellious as I was) to thumb their noses at the warnings. If it were approached as clinical and honest you would get a much better response. I know that after watching a documentary on stds and the treatment there of, in my high school anatomy, and physiology class condom sales sky rocketed at the local stop and rob.


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Education? What human being doesn't understand and know the dangers of hard drug addiction in this day and age.

I'm all for legalization, let the chips fall where they may. Just don't ask me to sympathize for the losers.



The problem is that the information is presented in a fantastic hyperbole that causes youths (particularly those rebellious as I was) to thumb their noses at the warnings. If it were approached as clinical and honest you would get a much better response. I know that after watching a documentary on stds and the treatment there of, in my high school anatomy, and physiology class condom sales sky rocketed at the local stop and rob.




When has drugs ever been presented with fantastic hyperbole, the 1950s when I was a child maybe? Marijuana! With the exception of maybe heroin most all recreational drugs at one time were promoted by governments and the medical establishment. For example,in Japan, meth was sold over the counter like aspirin till the 1950s.

I used the fatgrin because we don't have a grin icon with rotten teeth......

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Here you go Mac



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Education? What human being doesn't understand and know the dangers of hard drug addiction in this day and age.

I'm all for legalization, let the chips fall where they may. Just don't ask me to sympathize for the losers.



The problem is that the information is presented in a fantastic hyperbole that causes youths (particularly those rebellious as I was) to thumb their noses at the warnings. If it were approached as clinical and honest you would get a much better response. I know that after watching a documentary on stds and the treatment there of, in my high school anatomy, and physiology class condom sales sky rocketed at the local stop and rob.




When has drugs ever been presented with fantastic hyperbole, the 1950s when I was a child maybe?




Or maybe as late as, say, 1968 Mac, and when certain constantly dour Sergent of the LAPD(with badge No.714) with just a hint of hyperbole in his conversation with a make-believe Timothy Leary here? ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Twre6ItGEI

Actually this particular Dragnet episode always conjures up somethin' that Chad brought up here.

I remember watching this episode at a friend's house one night when we were 16 years old. And I remember my friend's dad sayin' to me afterward that my friend knows better than to take drugs because he said he'd "kick the crap out of his son if he ever caught him doin' 'em."

Now, the FUNNY part about this is that my friend was pretty much a regular "pot head", evidently unbeknownst to his "tough guy" dad.

Whereas, I remember MY father and I havin' a rational discussion about the issue of drug use...which, as I'm sure you remember at this time was REALLY takin' the country's youth by storm. AND, I've always felt, just as Chad has made mention here, the reason I NEVER got into that whole drug scene back then in high school when almost every one of my friends DID might've been because of that rational discussion my Pop and I had.

(..oh, and besides my POP teachin' me how NOT to bow to peer pressure in situations such as that, I ALSO always felt my hard earned bucks from bein' a boxboy at the local supermarket at that time would be MUCH better spend on parts for my motorcycles...particularly a couple of Hondas and one BSA Lightning...yep, I had the coolest freakin' motorcycle at Gardena High School by my senior year!)


Yep! Just like a good Single Malt Scotch, you might call me "an acquired taste" TOO.(among the many OTHER things you may care to call me, of course)
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I agree with you Dwight, we're about the same age. I never got into the "drug" thing either, but have been around it since the mid-sixties. Weed to me is like alcohol, no big deal, I prefer sour mash or a beer. I was referencing the more dangerous drugs and knowledge about them now.


Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. H. L. Mencken
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I agree with ya also, Mac. And yeah, I knew you were talkin' about the "harder stuff" here.

Actually, in my late twenties, I dabbled a little with cocaine, however just as I mentioned above about "spendin' my hard earned money on motorcycles", after I realized it had cost me a hundred bucks for those little bitty envelopes of the stuff(not to mention there is no way of ever knowing what its cut with), I once again decided that price-wise it was too much to pay for, what, feeling for only about one hour that you're the smoothest dude in the bar, and the chicks are really diggin' ya? For ONE hour?!!!

(...nope, once again I eventually realized I could spend those hundred bucks on more fun things...like parts for my motorcycles again!


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All the education in the world won't affect the lure of drugs. From before written time people have always liked to alter the conscious state. I never was drawn too much to drugs. As a young man, I could either afford gas for my car and bike or get high, and I REALLY liked to drive! Life has always been too darned interesting for me to alter the perception of it. Having said all that, with all the arguments both pro and con, we are foolishly wasting our time trying to stamp out the use of Mary Jane. It's no worse than the various alcohol drinks available, and is probably even safer overall. Sell it legally, tax the bejesus out of it, and pay off our debts we owe for killing brown people overseas. And remember, there's still lots more brown people around the world who need killin. (Thank you, G Carlin.)


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About 5000 people sparked up dubbies and bongs on Parliament Hill last week here in Ottawa. The RCMP were on hand but stood back rather then starting a much to do about nothing riot. Very sensible folk. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/04/20/marijuana-advocates-flock-to-parliament-hill We do allow medical marijuana here but if you know anyone that needs it and has tried the "gov't sanctioned" it isn't worth the price of admission.


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