20,000 bikes down each year was not meant to say 60000. My bad. But we will never know how Triumph is doing as Mr. Bloor has never shared his numbers, just leaked percentages with no validation of them. If they were at 60000 which I suspect is just silly numbers released as rumor the market tanked by nearly 30% or 20000.
Victory is at 9000 for 2011. Your math disregarded out of the sale number they reduced the purchase and investment of Indian. In 2009 you are right, they were down to about 4000 bikes sold. It was dismal.
I am just trying to figure how production numbers mean good or bad for a company with you guys.
If the more you make is how good you are then Harley makes the best bikes in the world.
I try to aggravate one person a day. Today may be your day.